That sounds about right!I did not post the one that looks carpintas.The second one is the one I got from the local lfs and btw,you were right.That fish did come from segrest.It cost me about 3x more though for the same fish.lol.(actually trade,so not really)The confusion comes from those juvi dempseys in the first vid which does show the second rt/pk from petsmart.why dont they have a flower on their head though?Are they just low grade or does it have to do w/mixing.I've seen a lot of them w/out the flowerline or at least one on the head area.most of the lower grade fh w/out a good line usually have that head flower?