Rhom needs freedom

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It is so wrong to keep a single fish alone in a tank for its whole life. It's like giving him/her the toughest punishment.
In their natural environment, they never live alone for life. So if you buy a rhom, buy a huge tank and at least keep 2 fish there. The only reason why u can't keep 2 rhoms in a tank is because your tank is way too small. Just because u have no money to buy a big tank or no place to keep a big tank, it is not fair to force the fish to live in a prison for life.

That's why I choose red bellies. They were born in captivity and most people keep them as shoals. In that way, they are more happier than your imprisoned rhom.
Don't steal the rhom's freedom for your entertainment.
 
Why single out Rhom keepers? Why don't you call out every aquarist with a single specimen tank? I'm sure you could ruffle more feathers that way.


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oneyedfish said:
Why single out Rhom keepers? Why don't you call out every aquarist with a single specimen tank? I'm sure you could ruffle more feathers that way.


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you know why ? :naughty:
Because I'm talking about it in the Piranha section of this forum. So here, I talk only about piranha.
But generally yes, it applies to all fish.
 
rain21 said:
It is so wrong to keep a single fish alone in a tank for its whole life. It's like giving him/her the toughest punishment.
In their natural environment, they never live alone for life. So if you buy a rhom, buy a huge tank and at least keep 2 fish there. The only reason why u can't keep 2 rhoms in a tank is because your tank is way too small. Just because u have no money to buy a big tank or no place to keep a big tank, it is not fair to force the fish to live in a prison for life.

That's why I choose red bellies. They were born in captivity and most people keep them as shoals. In that way, they are more happier than your imprisoned rhom.
Don't steal the rhom's freedom for your entertainment.
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You have absolutely no clue what you are talking about..... rhoms are ambush predators meaning they are usually alone in nature unless spawning.

We have seen some stunning species live healthy and long lifes.

This thread needs to be deleted. Its misinformed and ignorant.




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You're attributing human emotional needs to a fish that may(almost assuredly) not have them. I was going to go on a rant about psychology and it's application and how while I believe it's a valid field I believe it's a currently imperfect one based more on hypothesis rather than fact, but I'll digress for the sake of staying more on point. Some fish whether it's because of emotional development or a basic survival instinct do need others of their kind and that need/want can be present in captive individuals even if it's no longer necessary for their survival. With that said the lacking of companionship can be a source of stress in such individuals. While there are other fish that feel no need for companionship because it's not necessary for their survival except in their need/instinct for procreation. Such individuals probably only feel that need/want when certain stimuli trigger it and as such it can be easily avoided by not introducing said stimuli(ie:a mate or rival).

With that said Rhom's as far as I have heard in nature are solitary individuals only coming together for mating. As such it's doubtful they would feel differently in captivity. So your hardly stressing or making a Rhom feel lonely by putting him in a tank by himself as that's a natural state for him. Unless your keeping in his eyesight a potential rival or mate and not allowing him access to do what comes naturally. Otherwise by keeping him your making him what you would call "happy", which again we're not even sure a fish can feel what we consider an emotion as complex as being "happy". Still for the sake of argument we'll assume what you hypothesize(which is that fish feel complex emotions like people do) is true. He is no longer threatened by predators, his meals are regular and he is stimulated mentally if he's in a high traffic area the same as he would be in nature by other passing fish. Remember Rhoms don't know we're not fish it's beyond them they merely see us as a part of their environment either fitting in as threat, prey, rival or just fish he has no interest at all in. So in my opinion he is stimulated just as he would be in nature. There's more to keeping a Rhom but I think you get what I'm saying.

Now if anything keeping Red's in a tank is wrong as most don't truly have the tanks to properly house them based on your hypothesis of fish not being happy due to compainionship. In nature they form larger schools than most can maintain in home aquaria. The need for the schools in nature is so ingrained into them that being in captivity in a small school has to be extremely stressful and probably accounts for the observed skittishness in Reds. A large school brings security on so many levels and is part of the Reds survival instinct an instinct that most can't accommodate. They need large to schools for security from predators, to find food and to disperse aggression and don't realize they're in an aquarium and that such needs are no longer necessary. So unless your one of the few who has the room to house 20 or more Reds your probably stressing them(making them sad) more then you are stressing any Rhom you keep. Since a single Rhom is a natural state for the Rhom to be in while Reds are used to a much larger school your only stressing the Reds by not providing them what naturally makes them feel comfortable or secure.


By the way I'm not against keeping either kind of Piranha, merely using your hypothesis(that if where true/which I don't believe it is) to come to a more logical hypothesized conclusion.
 
Seriously what is it with you and rhoms? Did they attack you when you were a kid or something? If rhoms wanted to in a school they wouldn't kill the rest! Pease stop making these kind of against rhom threads, you' re annoying everyone in the piranha sub forum. This could actually count as a troll post, so seriously stop it.
 
I think I know here your coming from but only if the tank was small and lifeless as in empty with no plants, substrate, wood, rocks, etc. but if this rhom had a big tank with all of those things this beautiful creature would be totally fine. So yea haha. My 2 cents. I mean I have an oscar that lives by itself in a 55 gallon tank alone and that's minimum but he's a happy pig.


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