the big rhoms in a tempory tank, its actually 5 feet high that tank, there one 12ins caribe and a 8ins ternetzi, and 6 piraya, the shoal is having a few probs at the moment the 13ins fish at the top is probly female and is taking a bit of a ruffin up by one of the males, the 12ins peru rhom i got from swapping a pair of breeding reds a couple of years ago , the 12ins brazil swapped for an aft, hes been offered £1000 for the big rhom but isnt selling (just yet)