Well here is the male i got from Ira which is from Flowerpowers wild pair
I named the Juggernaut because of the hump he developed before they paired out, it was insane. but since i got them paired they spawned and it decreased
but anyway after my move a couple weeks ago i upgraded them into a 75 and after 2 days of settling i pulled the divider and these two went at it like they were hyper active lol. They were doing great together so i left the divider out and a couple days later they spawned!! half the eggs were fertle but the the female ate the fry as they hatched. this video is of them a few days ago and they are getting ready to spawn agian here soon so hopefully they wont eat them this time
I would say they are both around 5" or so
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