Rough looking blue acara

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I have a regular blue acara that's become progressively rougher looking since I added it to my tank in February. It was 1 of 3 added at the same time. Of the other two, one died (explained below) and the other is thriving.

I'm not sure if this is disease or stress. I do not see any real bullying, it's mostly left alone, at least while I'm around. It eats but not as agressively as the others. A photo of it is attached (I think it is a female).

It's a 75 gallon planted tank that's been running for years. There's 2 regular blue acaras, 2 electric blue acaras, 2 angelfish, 4 platys, 8-10 tetras, and 6-8 cories. I do 50% water changes weekly and ammonia/nitrates/etc are good. I'm running an Eheim Pro 4+ 600 at one end and 2 Eheim 2217s connected together at the other, with spray bars across the back.

The angelfish are the most agressive. The other regular blue acara (photo attached) is male and the boss acara, but is less aggressive than the angels unless they really annoy him. The two electric blue acaras (1 male, 1 female) are not aggressive. At one point the male regular blue acara and female electric blue acara were paired and had fry, but haven't spawned in months.

I originally had 2 more acaras, one male regular and one female electric, but they died. The female had ich for sure in an outbreak from the new tetras a couple months ago that I got under control, but the regular male was a surprise and not clear what happened to it (though it was sub-dominant to the other male acara). There is no active sign of anyone with an infection.

Any suggestions?

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He does look rough.
To me, it looks like he has a very submissive pose, due to being low on the totem pole with the other acara. The angel may help make bad faces, but my guess is the other acara. Hopefully others will chime in with other suggestions.
 
To me, a 75gal is only a large enough tank for a pair of Andinoacara, any more than that invites territorial issues (this does exclude non-cichlids, which are ignored).
In my 180 gal, about a year ago, I put a dozen wild caught A coerleopunctatus (very similar to the "blue" acaras), within the 1st week, the dominant male drove 2 other males to leaping suicidal deaths during the night, and outright killed another. And any non-receptive females, unless they have escape hideout space, got shredded. Most of the time the aggression was not overt.
I have heard similar stories from other cichlid keepers, that in tanks under 100 gallons they end up with only a pair, or at worst, only 1 over time.
At the moment in my tank one male controls half the 6ft tank, and the other male, the other half of the tank, the females seem to have free rein, and because there are a bunch of them, and lots of site breaks, no one gets singled out for abuse.
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Well I am sure you are both correct. I had walked into the pet store I rarely go to and saw 3 regular type blue acaras that I’d never seen before in town (only the electric type), and bought all 3 despite having 3 electrics at home already. Of course, the fish are in charge and nature takes its course. I love the colour and personality of the acaras, and they are a great size for a 75 — unless you get too many of them as I did. Thanks!
 
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