Salamanders that can tolerate a 20-27 degree temperature range

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are u talking in Celsius???

whats that in Fahrenheit??
 
I don't know of too many heat-tolerant land salamanders, for aquatics you could possibly keep any of the siren or amphiuma species. Not sure how available those will be for you though, I don't think I've seen them for sale commercially.
 
AU_Arowana-RG;3042899; said:
Are there any Salamanders that can tolerate a temperature of this range?

They are my FAVORITE amphibians and I would really like some without having to buy a chiller.
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my tiger salamander survived 2 days of 90 degree heat
 
I agree, sirens and amphiumas are the only salamanders likely to do well at the upper end of those temps. If you have a place in your home that stays cooler or are willing to use fans, ice bottles, etc. to maintain a temp in the low 20's C, you could keep Ambystoma or some of the subtropical newts like Notophthalmus, Pachytriton, or Tylototriton. You could also keep a cage in a refrigerator if you're really determined to keep sallies.
 
Many will adapt but you must try to keep them in shade all times in the coolest place in your house;) Fire belly Im shure will be fine
 
You will be hard pressed to see salamanders out on a 26+ C day. Most Ambystoma will not appreciate temps above 25 C for long periods of time. Sure salamanders can endure higher temps for a couple of days but it will potentially be life threatening. Stress is the name of the game and at higher temps the immune system drops causing a swift take over.

As stated above many aquatic newts can thrive in higher temps but I do not know one that will survive temps above 28 C for more than several days. Cynops cyanurus (most Cynops in fact, but cyanurus is the best) and Neurergus strauchii seem to do fine in lower 80's but if it spikes higher than it can be a problem. There are more but these two species I know live in areas were the temps are warmer and will do good in this range.

There are also cheap effective ways to keep your tank cooler if needed. Also as stated earlier bottled ice, open top (screened), well ventilated, coolest part of the house/room, etc. This will go a long way to keeping temps down. Here in Wisconsin during the summer if I didnt keep my collection down in the basement, I would run into major problems myself.

I would definitely not bet on or expect an adaptation to the higher temps. Just like fish, if you do not keep them at the right temperature range its only a matter of time. You would not subject tropical fish to 10 to 15 degrees lower than their natural temp range would you?

I agree with them being wonderful creatures and I wish you all the best!

Mitch
 
There are a couple of simple things to do and some more extreme things to do. Finding the coolest spot in the house is the first step. The tank should never be subjected to direct sunlight, even a room that gets sun for more than a couple of hours can heat the room considerably. The second thing to do is make sure your top is as ventilated as possible. Using a screen top is ideal and if you are using a light above the tank (which you don’t need) then make sure there is clearance. Next thing you can do if temps are high is place a fan next to the tank and have it parallel with the top of the tank and slightly over it, this creates a pull of the sitting air in the tank dropping the temp slightly. You could also try putting ice bottles in the tank maybe under the substrate or something but this gets very old and isn’t very constant but works in the short term.

If these methods are still not enough then its time to use more aggressive measures. I have seen people mount computer fans on the cover to pull hot air out. One other thing that comes to mind is a chiller system. Most chillers on the market are used for aquatic setups and are really pricey. One cheaper alternative is take a small dorm refrigerator, cut a small hole and run a tube from this to the tank. You can also have a water area and use a canister filter place it in a cooler with ice but here too you have to keep replacing the ice. You really would want to stay away from these two methods if possible because of initial price and the ongoing price of electricity but it can be done. Hope this helps





Mitch
 
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