Same species of Amazon Puffer but bigger one eats , smaller ones do not eat specific food

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I have 4 Amazon Puffer fishes. One of them is giant big 12 CM long and the others are smaller as you can see in the video.

I am giving the large Amazon Puffer frozen food shown in the picture. Diskusfutter.jpg

the problem is that the large puffer eats it very well and also other guppies eat this beefheart but the smaller amazon puffers they do not show any apatite to eat it. I even kept them hungry for several days and still the smaller puffers did not eat the frozen heart food.

if both of these fishes are same species why larger one eats and the smaller ones are not eating the same food?

here is the video
 
Rocksor Rocksor
Thanks. but his favorite food is the beef heart . why is that not a good food?
 
Agreed, beef heart is No Bueno. Aquatic based protein would be better suited to your fish.

Also, feed smaller portions of food on one side of the tank, and larger on the other side. If I was one of the smaller puffers, I wouldn't be attempting to steal food from the larger puffer, either.
 
Rocksor Rocksor
Thanks. but his favorite food is the beef heart . why is that not a good food?

Fish (in general) cannot fully digest beefheart. Lots of energy is wasted in trying to digest it (lots of scientific studies on it). In an interview, even the famed discus breeder Jack Whatley (sp?) did a feeding trial with beefheart vs flakes, and he found when examining discus feces under a microscope that pieces of beefheart were not fully digested versus the flakes.

It's a good thing the smaller puffers are not eating it.
 
Agreed, beef heart is No Bueno. Aquatic based protein would be better suited to your fish.

Also, feed smaller portions of food on one side of the tank, and larger on the other side. If I was one of the smaller puffers, I wouldn't be attempting to steal food from the larger puffer, either.

The amazon puffers would not fight each other, the issue is that even if the larger one is full and not eating, the smaller ones still won't even sniff the beef heart. it seems like the smaller ones are not recognizing the beef heart as food.
 
The notion came from men of science, that determined long ago that mammal meat, and lipids, were not digested well by most of the commercial finfish they were feeding them to. As far as cost, some of those fats are now far less costly than oil from fish, cost is not a factor. In fact, typically commercial aquaculture has always taken the least costly path when designing food formulas. Plenty of lower cost, lower grade ingredients were used in the past .

(PDF) Review: Use of Animal Fats in Aquaculture Feeds (researchgate.net)

"Rendered animal fats are economical lipid sources that have been used in fish feeds for decades but their use
has been greatly limited for various reasons, such as poor digestibility and nutritive value,
and more recently, fear of disease transmission."


That was a paper written by a very well known aquatic feed researcher here in Canada, 20 yrs ago. There's plenty more where that came from - google is your friend for those interested.


From a previous post of mine here on MFK on this subject .......



Dr. Peter Burgess MSc, Ph.D.,of the Aquarium Advisory Service in England, is not only an experienced aquarium hobbyist, but also a scientist that specializes in the health & disease in fish. He has written over 300 articles and five books on fish health and is a visiting lecturer in Aquarium Sciences and Conservation at Plymouth University, where he works with the University of Plymouth training students in scientific research. Among his other positions, Dr. Burgess is a senior consultant to the Mars FishCare business and regularly runs fish health & husbandry courses for aquarists, fish scientists and vets. He's also a regular contributor & Fish Health consultant for the Practical Fishkeeping Magazine, as well as other magazines devoted to the fish keeping hobby.



Below is an excerpt from the Practical Fishkeeping Magazine and written by Dr. Burgess, titled;


Liver Damage and Red Meats


The routine of feeding beef heart and other red meats to Cichlids can ultimately give rise to health problems. Poultry meat is also suspect. Red meats, including lean meats such as beef heart, contain the wrong sorts of fats - these harden within the cold-blooded fish, leading to blockages and fatty deposits around the liver.

Also, the relative proportions of amino acids within the mammalian proteins are different to those required by fish. Hence, feeding red meats will cause the cichlid to excrete more nitrogenous (ammonia) wastes, thereby placing an extra burden on the biological filter."


The OP should have enough information to make an informed decision on how best to proceed.
Good luck


Search my ID and the word beef, there's plenty more where that came from.

Good luck
 
The amazon puffers would not fight each other, the issue is that even if the larger one is full and not eating, the smaller ones still won't even sniff the beef heart. it seems like the smaller ones are not recognizing the beef heart as food.

It's because they don't naturally eat beef heart. It doesn't smell like fish/insects.
 
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