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T1KARMANN

T1KARMANN

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someone gave me this how can i set it up without a sump

this is what i was thinking

attach a hose to my internal filter 1200LPH turn over the filter has a flow adjuster on it then run it back to the tank

will this work or is their anything else i need to know

i have never used one before but hurd they work well any info would be good

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I just aquired a similar one to that after reading about how good they are suposed to be, I will be running it in my sump though probably by diverting some of the return from the sump pump through the fluidised bed filter and back into the sump.

I cant see why you couldnt do what you have stated though? Mine has a couple of hooks to hang it on the side of a tank. It basically works the same as a canister filter, as long as water is going in and coming out and the flow rate is right it should work regardless?

What do you plan on putting in it? Mine came with the filter sand inside it.

I read somewhere that a large aquarium here in Aust uses big fluidised bed filters along side their normal wet/dry trickle systems because they found the bacteria survives longer in the sand bed filter in the event of power outage or similar? Not sure of the details why?
 
well im off to the shops to try to get this running today :D

i have a 1200lph inturnal filter as i think it will need to be prefiltered 1st i also want to t of the return pipes to add a nitrate filter

i was told that the good bacteria dies very fast if the unit is turned of
 
Sand bed filters are excellent pure biological filters, because the sand is fluidised by the water flow through it then every particle of sand is able to get at oxygenated water going through the bed this means a massive surface area for the good bacteria to colonise.
The constant motion and knocking together of the sand particles means that a film of bacteria is always present and will always be working because there is no crap left to obscure the media.
You can buy sand specifically for the fluid bed, I am not sure how if differs from normal sand.
The water has to be prefiltered first to stop grot getting into it.

You can set it up exactly as you said as a free standing system but the pump has to be capable of creating enough head to
1. get the sand fluidised
2. return the water back from the filter.
3. You dont want the sand exiting out of the return either so as you said, it needs a flow adjuster on the outlet.

The bacteria will die off at the same rate as the bacteria die off in a canister filter as they use the same nutrients, oxygen upload etc.

I have often thought of using a sand filter on my tanks purely for bio fitration, just have been too lazy to do anything about it.

Good luck Richard, it will be a good addition to your filtration but as you have HUGE filtration already it is not a neccessity, just a nice to have that will certainly do no harm.

Steve :)
 
K.O.D said:
Sand bed filters are excellent pure biological filters, because the sand is fluidised by the water flow through it then every particle of sand is able to get at oxygenated water going through the bed this means a massive surface area for the good bacteria to colonise.
The constant motion and knocking together of the sand particles means that a film of bacteria is always present and will always be working because there is no crap left to obscure the media.
You can buy sand specifically for the fluid bed, I am not sure how if differs from normal sand.
The water has to be prefiltered first to stop grot getting into it.

You can set it up exactly as you said as a free standing system but the pump has to be capable of creating enough head to
1. get the sand fluidised
2. return the water back from the filter.
3. You dont want the sand exiting out of the return either so as you said, it needs a flow adjuster on the outlet.

The bacteria will die off at the same rate as the bacteria die off in a canister filter as they use the same nutrients, oxygen upload etc.

I have often thought of using a sand filter on my tanks purely for bio fitration, just have been too lazy to do anything about it.

Good luck Richard, it will be a good addition to your filtration but as you have HUGE filtration already it is not a neccessity, just a nice to have that will certainly do no harm.

Steve :)
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you can never have to much filteration :D
 
Here is some info and experiences:

Fluidised Bed Filter

Here is an excerpt explaining a theory as to why they fare better than a trickle filter in a power outage, dont know if its accurate or not?

Apparently there is little osmotic pressure to encourage oxygen to dissolve into the thin layer of water coating the trickle filter media. Totally immersed fluidised beds have an oxygen reserve present in the water. The author has installed his own small fluidised bed filter of his own design in the sump of a Thiel Platinum trickle filter as a piece of test equipment to handle any future power failures.
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well the sand filter is up and running but how long to they take to mature
 
..camera phone doesnt work too well indoors: :(



I just set mine up on my new tank. It will eventually be in the sump when I get around to finishing it but for now I just hung it on the side ;)

Is the tank already established with a working bio filter? I would think it wouldnt take too long then. But if its a new tank then I've read 30-40 days I think? Basically like any other biological filter I'd assume?
 
hardb0iled said:
..camera phone doesnt work too well indoors: :(



I just set mine up on my new tank. It will eventually be in the sump when I get around to finishing it but for now I just hung it on the side ;)

Is the tank already established with a working bio filter? I would think it wouldnt take too long then. But if its a new tank then I've read 30-40 days I think? Basically like any other biological filter I'd assume?
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yeh my tank is mature

now i have seen yours set up i think i have the flow about right and the sand is blowing to the same hight
 
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