well Bonsai have no parrot in them from what i have heard of breeders them selvs. Now that i think about it short bodys dont seem to be bonsai because most flowerhorn breeders seek not long bodys. just hypothetical Bonsai are deformed with a curved spine. And short bodys are bred to shorten their bodys. Who knows still waiteing for a respone from knowlagable people on another forum. ;0