SCORE! pair of free Xingu Is

[Cecropia]

I picked up 2 Xingu juvies a 2 weeks ago. I went to give my fav local LFS my salvini and flowerhorn (they were being picked on relentlessly, I am a month behind on setting up my 125). The usual employee asked what I was looking at as I was looking at the pikes and told me if I bagged them up I could have them!

Since my jag has no problem with the pikes I've kept him with in the past I figured I'd have him with at least one of these guys when they get older.

Quick question, is there anything I can should keep in my growout with them? They ate all 6 of my yo yo loaches before I could even get my net from the fish closet! maybe some relatively peaceful cichlids to get them used to the idea of not being the only cichlids in the tank?

The Xingus are 4" not including tail, in a cycled 25 gallon running a cheapo HOB rated at 300gph (one of the big box pet store brand) and a marineland 150.

 

[Cecropia]

Well I tried to snap some pics...and after looking around they're johannas...and waaaayyy too fast for my camera. I'm excited nevertheless!

 

[Peanut_Power]

You just got rid of fish because they were getting picked on relentlessly and replaced them with fish that have potential to be more aggressive. I am missing your logic here.

Johanna are temperamental at best. Some are super laid back, and others are just relentless. So you'll just have to make your judgement as they grow. Its a pretty small grow out tank, so adding more fish is really limited, especially when it comes to cichlids. In a bigger tank you can keep them with virtually almost anything, with in reason. Of course, they will have the final say in it however. They do do best with some of the more aggressive, robust species though. Generally Geophagus/Satanoperca can't stick up for themselves well enough when put up against Crenicichla. It can work, but then again it might not.

Oh btw. . . might want to edit your sig. . . .

 

[Cecropia]

Well, my original post was long. lol I left out a bit.

The jag kept getting back-attacked by the sal. The jag would chase him and take out aggression on the FH when he couldn't catch the sal and I had only bought the Fh b/c I found it at a local lfs in an african peacock tank and wanted to see how it would color up. Turned out to be very a VERY low grade, would have def been a cull.

Figured the jag leaves all the pikes i've had with it alone, a lugburis group pike or two should work fine with him. the proteus will be bite sized for him before too long.

 

[Cecropia]

My guess is johanna...thoughts?

 

[Funky_Fish14]

Lol those are definitely nowhere near being C. johanna. They look like some sort of dwarf pike (Saxatilis or Scotti group or something). Im not good with dwarves.

Your jag will probably eat those. (Edit: Oh maybe not right now. he doesnt look very big, but he will eat or kill them in due course. My if my 5" jag has no problem going at my 5" C. sp. 'belly crawler'.

Why have you kept tons of pikes with him before but never stayed firm with your fish actually kept?

 

[darth pike]

Deffinately no where near a dwarf pike species. Nor a sax-type or scotti (dwarves are wallacii types btw). They are deffinately a lugubris type. The thick midlateral bar does suggest johanna.

 

[Cecropia]

Why have you kept tons of pikes with him before but never stayed firm with your fish actually kept?

I grew out an unknown group of juvie saxtilis type pikes with him when he was younger and he let them be. Returned to grown out group to their owner and was given one of them as payment. The members here identified the pike I was given as a female C. proteus. She's been with him since without issue. I know eventually she'll be bite sized and don't want him in the 125 by himself, hence me trying the lugbris group pikes. At the rate they're growing, I feel confident that't they'll outgrow the C. proteus and be introduced to the 125 at the same time as the Jag.

Sorry for the lengthy post, but you really seemed like you wanted to know.

Deffinately no where near a dwarf pike species. Nor a sax-type or scotti (dwarves are wallacii types btw). They are deffinately a lugubris type. The thick midlateral bar does suggest johanna.

Thanks! Good to know I wasn't completely offbase lol
Love these guys/gals already. Hopefully they cohab with the jag, I don't want to pull another tank out of storage...the GF is mad enough already.

 

[Funky_Fish14]

Unless it is the very uncommon variety from "Rio Tocantins" (mentioned on Mostly Cichlids) then they are not johanna. The body shape is different than those. Their head looks too pointed. Just about all Johannas have red eyes as well.

Where are the nostrils on your fish? Do they look like they are almost on the upper lip or spaced away from it?

 

[its_an_obsession]

definitely juvi johannas. hopefully you have a male and female and they will bond. my two bonded johannas were my favorite fish i ever owned.

funky fish... why do u say not johannas?