seeking advice before starting a planted tank

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Kellanved

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I will be moving in about a month, and this provides me with the opportunity to redo one of my tanks. The intention is to plant the tank this time around, and use it as a discus show tank. The tank is a 110 breeder (52X20X20 IN). I figured that the extra depth would allow for a easier delineation between front middle and back. The filter is an eheim 2217, I figured the flow was enough as previously there were only 4 bichirs in the tank, and now it will be largely filtered by the plants. I have a main heater and a spare in the tank, so pumping the temp up to 84 degrees should not be a problem. The intent is to purchase a set of t5 ho lights with roghly 200 watts and individual reflectors. I have a co2 bottle regulator etc from a previous planted tank, so if it looks like I need injection, it should not be an issue to get that set up. The substrate at the moment is a thin layer of white sand which i intend to keep, but i also intend to put down a layer of fluorite before hand.

As far as stocking is concerned, the intent is to have 6-15 coridoras schwarzi, 10-20 cardinals, 6-10 rummy nose tetras, 6-10 marble hatchets, and of course my 6 discus. The discus will not be moved in to the tank until everything is stable etc.

My intention was to use the rocks and driftwood hardscape i have for my bichirs at the moment, and plant 2 thirds of the tank quite heavily leaving a band in front for swimming. I was hoping for some advice on the plants I should be using that can withstand the temperatures that discus need to be happy. With luck I should like to get a good mix of plant shapes and colours, as added contrast is part of the appeal of switching to a planted tank. I was really hoping to be able to have a red tiger lotus in the tank, but have never seen one with discus. Anyway, any advice on such things, ex. need more light, should probably try co2, this plant is nice, avoid this plant etc. would be greatly apreciated.
 
Anubias barteri ''coffeefolia''
Anubias Barteri
Anubias Nana
Crinum (water Onion) Thaianum)
Crinum Natans
Cryptocoryne Balansae
Cryptocoryne Petchi
Cryptocoryne Wendtii (Green)
Cryptocoryne Wendtii De Witt (Red)
Amazon Broadleaf (Echnidorus Bleheri)
Ozelot (Ech. Ozelot)
Pennywort (Hydrocotyle leucocephala)
Temple (stricta) Hygrophilia Corombosa)
Java Fern (Microsorum pteropus )
Java Fern, Lace Windelov
Saggitaria Subulata (Narrow Leaf)
Jungle Vallisneria
Italian Vallisneria


 
the plants labeled above are good. this tank soudns intense I can't wait to see pics!
 
a ~200 watt T5HO fixture is going to be 4x54W, 216 total. You can grow anything you want with that, and you will need the CO2.

Catalina Aquarium is a good brand
 
FSM;4112733; said:
a ~200 watt T5HO fixture is going to be 4x54W, 216 total. You can grow anything you want with that, and you will need the CO2.

Catalina Aquarium is a good brand


pretty much yea!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

the plants i listed above are just really tolerant of the higher temps discus require....
not to big of a deal tho..
u should b fine...
and also u can add ferts an stuff and see how ur plants do first off w/o co2...
if its not workin go get the co2
 
Thank you for the comments. I especially appreciate the plants list, they give me an excellent place to start. Interestingly enough, the Catalina was precisely the light I was looking to get, and it is wonderful to know that that should allow me to grow anything I have a fancy to try. As for pictures, I was hoping to post pictures of the entire process. There seem to be a lot of before and after pictures on the forum, but very few that actually stop between each stage of a build to show what it looks like. Anyway, the more info I get the better, so I would still appreciate any more advice or criticism.
 
Seems like you're pretty much set and going in with a good plan (btw, 110 planted tank is going to look amazing)

the only thing I can suggest is at least 30-50 ottocinclus sp. (not sure about the number persay, I'd just think like at least 2 for every 10 or so gallons) and like 100+ japonica shrimp or other mainly algae eating shrimp because even though you may not see the algae at first, if you don't have the algae crew, in a couple of months, it will most likely become algae heaven. (just personal experience). So final point is lots of algae eaters, oh and plant heavily at the beginning. I would suggest watching PFK's podcast where they actually set up a 30 gallon planted tank, I can link it later if you want. Just gives really good tips on aquascaping and how to prep and plant the plants and stuff.
 
yes sir a 110 would look amazing,
only thing tho i dont like oto cats because they stay rather small and i had abig angelfish get one caught in its mouth b4 and die,
so if ur gettin some rather big community fish like angels that might b something to think about,
but they do have a giant oto.. i think they get 2-3 inches idk u might wanna look them up.
 
well, he says he plans to have rummy nose tetras, cardinals, etc. which are pretty small fish, so I i figured that the ottos wouldn't be a big, problem. In actuality, I would be more concerned with the algae eating shrimp because they may end up dinner for hungry discus, but I have no experience with discus
 
Algae eaters will be 5 SAEs, yes, I know there is a false version, but I am pretty sure the ones I have are the good ones. I was also thinking of getting an Albino Bristlenose to help with the glass cleaning. Ottos would be fun later, as I love their antics, but I know they tend to starve if there is not enough algae, and there are so many different types of Ottos that it is very hard to tell them apart, and some of them have a tendency to enjoy discus slime coat. As such I would probably wait a while on the Ottos, and if I need a bit more algae fighting power I would add them. I don't think Shrimp are really possible as I feed ghost shrimp to my discus as a treat, and they rarely last more than a few minutes.
 
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