several questions about angelfish

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fishnoob

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Ok was looking for any ideas to put in my 46gal bowfront. Someone mentioned angel fish. I never thought about it, and after viewing some pics, they look stunning. Now questions.. how many could I have in my 46 (wont be upgrading) and can anything go with them? Also, do they breed often? thanks in advance
 
fishnoob said:
i have some questions, and i think you may be able to help me. I posted on angel forum but no one seems to go there. Well I have a 46gal bowfront and want to do a angel set up. What about 4 angels, school of corys, and school of cardinal tetras? I have a big piece of driftwood and will use silk plants (can't afford live plants,fertilizers,lights,etc.). and I have sand. Also will the angels eat their fry if they breed? eventuall? i realyl cant deal with fry atm
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I got your PM. Will post my thoughts here.

For the cardinal tetras and angelfish, the combination is unlikely to work permanently. Angels have a knack for consuming tetras that fit their mouths. Go with rummy-nose tetras, glowlights or Columbian tetras.

For plants, just give live plants a try. Low lighting plants are your best bets and they are easy and undemanding. Stick with Java moss, Java ferns, anubias, Nymphaea lotus and Cryptocoryne sp. They do not require ferts and you can simply turn on the lighting for at least 8 hours.

Since you will be using sand, I suggest you add MTS (Malaysian trumpet snails) to help stir the sand otherwise keep raking it every time you change the water with a chopstick or fork. MTS are also useful as they eat the leftover foods. Extra snails can be disposed or crushed with a hammer and be fed to your fish. Don't use your fingers to crush the snails. Their shells are far too hard.

Angels eat their fry or eggs the first time they involve themselves in parental practice however as they repeat the process, they eventually learn to become excellent parents. Leave the eggs/fry with them so they have an opportunity to learn.
 
Lupin;3049931; said:
I got your PM. Will post my thoughts here.

For the cardinal tetras and angelfish, the combination is unlikely to work permanently. Angels have a knack for consuming tetras that fit their mouths. Go with rummy-nose tetras, glowlights or Columbian tetras.

For plants, just give live plants a try. Low lighting plants are your best bets and they are easy and undemanding. Stick with Java moss, Java ferns, anubias, Nymphaea lotus and Cryptocoryne sp. They do not require ferts and you can simply turn on the lighting for at least 8 hours.

Since you will be using sand, I suggest you add MTS (Malaysian trumpet snails) to help stir the sand otherwise keep raking it every time you change the water with a chopstick or fork. MTS are also useful as they eat the leftover foods. Extra snails can be disposed or crushed with a hammer and be fed to your fish. Don't use your fingers to crush the snails. Their shells are far too hard.

Angels eat their fry or eggs the first time they involve themselves in parental practice however as they repeat the process, they eventually learn to become excellent parents. Leave the eggs/fry with them so they have an opportunity to learn.
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ok thanks, how many of the rummy-nose tetra could i have? also , i only have 1 15 watt bulb, what wattage bulb do i need for these plants? oh and how many corys can i have? assuming they are fine with angels.
 
fishnoob;3050029; said:
ok thanks, how many of the rummy-nose tetra could i have? also , i only have 1 15 watt bulb, what wattage bulb do i need for these plants? oh and how many corys can i have? assuming they are fine with angels.
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For a 46g bowfront, go with 15 rummy-nose tetras and 10 corydoras. Stick with Corydoras sterbai or Corydoras paleatus. If you wish to attempt other species, research their requirements first before you buy. Some cories tolerate cooler water than what the angels and rummies require. They are tight schoolers so I wouldn't expect them to disperse except during feeding time only. If your light bulb seems a little brightly litted, it's sufficient enough for the lowlighting plants.
 
what temp does the tank need to be? i have actually googled angels and can't find a temperature for them. oh and what type of filtration? heavy?
 
also, about these "Malaysian trumpet snails" are these the snails i have read about where people get infested with them and can't get rid of them?
 
fishnoob;3052076; said:
what temp does the tank need to be? i have actually googled angels and can't find a temperature for them. oh and what type of filtration? heavy?
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A range of 78-86 degrees Fahrenheit should be okay. As for filtration, I thought you've already planned this beforehand. A turnover rate of 400 gallons per hour should be sufficient enough. Plan your water changes weekly or more frequently depending on how much you feed and how far your nitrate level goes.
 
fishnoob;3052094; said:
also, about these "Malaysian trumpet snails" are these the snails i have read about where people get infested with them and can't get rid of them?
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Overfeeding is the main issue. There is nothing wrong in having these snails. If you don't want the extras, give them away to anyone who keeps assassin snails and loaches. More tips about removing them.
http://www.aquariacentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=182687
 
Lupin;3052099; said:
A range of 78-86 degrees Fahrenheit should be okay. As for filtration, I thought you've already planned this beforehand. A turnover rate of 400 gallons per hour should be sufficient enough. Plan your water changes weekly or more frequently depending on how much you feed and how far your nitrate level goes.
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well I have 2 filters made for 60 gal, but was thinking of getting 2 emp 400's. is that to much?
 
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