Sexing Umbees, how?

[Piranhanut]

How can you tell the sex of juvinile Umbees? Can someone post pics to show the difference?

 

[cichlaguapote]

http://www.cichlidae.com/article.php?id=138

There is much speculation though that females can share the same traits when juveniles so venting or waiting til they mature is the best way to sex.

 

[Opiate]

damn! i really wanan know what my juvie is!

 

[bennet]

i always thought that umbees with 3 small blue spots under the eyes were male.worked 4 me

 

[cichlaguapote]

i always thought that umbees with 3 small blue spots under the eyes were male.worked 4 me

Pretty much every umbie I've seen male/female has blue spots on the face, most I've see have bronzed operculum, and most have long anal/dorsel fins.. So it's pretty hard to tell by looks.