Shiner ID?

[Bottomfeeder]

I know the pictures suck, sorry about that. We have enough trouble keeping our fishing gear in order, let alone a proper camera/equipment. I realize that makes it a shot in the dark due to the wide variety of shiners in the US, but I figure it's worth a shot.

 

[Bottomfeeder]

Anybody?

 

[crappiekeeper]

It'd help to know where this is.

 

[MN_Rebel]

Looks like a shad or western united states minnow species. Location can be helpful

 

[Bottomfeeder]

Definitely not a shad. There are no shad anywhere near the area.

It was caught in a somewhat deeper pocket of a stream of clove lake, in NYC. There are golden shiners in the system, but these struck me as a different species.

 

[MN_Rebel]

Definitely not a shad. There are no shad anywhere near the area.

It was caught in a somewhat deeper pocket of a stream of clove lake, in NYC. There are golden shiners in the system, but these struck me as a different species.

there are some shad species in NYC so you cannot rule them out....

 

[Bottomfeeder]

But in an artificially made, stocked, and isolated city pond system that contains no shad, I can, in fact, rule out the possibility that this is a shad.

The fish in question is 100% not a shad, almost 100% a cyprinid.

 

[MN_Rebel]

But in an artificially made, stocked, and isolated city pond system that contains no shad, I can, in fact, rule out the possibility that this is a shad.

The fish in question is 100% not a shad, almost 100% a cyprinid.

Shads are commonly stocked in ponds as forage fish. And you hasn't rule it out yet till you get a better pictures of fish in question. Otherwise its a bait fish.

 

[Bottomfeeder]

I've fished this system my entire life and talked to hundreds of others who also have, and have yet to see any evidence of any shad. They are not present in the system. The lake is not usually stocked with forage fish of any kind, hence why there is a very low population of bass, but high population of bluegill, pumpkinseed, and bullheads, which subsist mainly on swamp crayfish and other inverts, as well as food thrown to the ducks by people. There are, however, a small number of golden shiners in some deeper regions of the lake.

I also held the fish in my hand and examined it closely, and noted it to be characteristic of a cyprinid, most likely a shiner. In doing so, I ruled out it being a clupeid. Even if you cannot do so by the pictures because you cannot see it clearly, I have.

It's 100% not a shad. I dont know why this is difficult for you to grasp.

 

[crappiekeeper]

It doesn't look like a shad to me. No idea though. MN rebel knows his stuff.