Silicone Integrity Question

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So due to the recent tank failures that have popped up recently, I took a good hard look at all of our tanks and ran across something suspect. There are seams like this on our other tanks, but nothing quite as big as this. Am I losing sleep for nothing?
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So due to the recent tank failures that have popped up recently, I took a good hard look at all of our tanks and ran across something suspect. There are seams like this on our other tanks, but nothing quite as big as this. Am I losing sleep for nothing?
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Wow mines half that and I was worried! What size is it? I'm thinking of putting 90 degree corners on all 4 sides with silicone.




Go S. Vettel #1 rb8
 
So, what's the verdict? Our dining room table is right by the tank and I've even moved one of the chairs so that way if it does give, no one gets smacked in the back of their head. I was always under the assumption that when a glass tank fails, it usually isn't catastrophic. Should I start buying totes to house the fish for a re-seal, or just get BACK into the tank market?
 
So, what's the verdict? Our dining room table is right by the tank and I've even moved one of the chairs so that way if it does give, no one gets smacked in the back of their head. I was always under the assumption that when a glass tank fails, it usually isn't catastrophic. Should I start buying totes to house the fish for a re-seal, or just get BACK into the tank market?

If u have somewhere else to keep ur fish for a day, break it all down and reseal it then u never have to worry!

Go S. Vettel #1 rb8
 
Nope, I don't have anywhere to put them. Ha. I wonder if this is a serious problem, or just an imperfection. I'd imagine that anytime air gets in between a seal it is disaster! Even if I did reseal it, I'd still be worried because I'd only be sealing the inside of the corners, not the actual seam. I'd like to know if some tank failures have had imperfections like this and if that contributed to the failure. Damn these glass boxes!
 
Hello; I had a seam separate on a 55 gallon in the past. The tank had been in use for several years. I do not know what the seam looked like prior to failure. The tank was last set up in for a few months front of a large window with heavy curtains to block the light but I suspect there was a lot of heat. The tank failed on a hot day.
To the question of how to judge a seam. I suspect that a seam of silicone with no tiny bubbles at all may be best, but have seen some bubbles in what have proven to be sound seams. There is a look silicone gets when glass pieces that are bonded are pulled apart. I know what it looks like but am not sure how to describe it. I have bonded glass pieces and later separated them and noted a distinct apperance. Perhaps a couple of pieces of spare glass can be bonded and allowed to set up for a week or two and then pulled apart in order to view the result. Do not bond too much surface as it may be extremely difficult to get them apart.
I have been in the practice of adding clear plastic corners to my all glass tanks. I have found some that are for protecting the outside corners of wall paper that work well with a little trimming. I attach the plastic corners to the outside of my tanks with clear silicone. My goal has been to protect the glass edges and prevent chips but it seems reasonable to think that they will add some strength to the tank seams as well. Perhaps a stronger material can be bonded to the outside corners that will add even more strength.
I also think that resealing the inside seams of a tank with silicone adds some extra bonding strength, thou perhaps not a great deal, in addition to sealing for leaks.
 
Hello; I had a seam separate on a 55 gallon in the past. The tank had been in use for several years. I do not know what the seam looked like prior to failure. The tank was last set up in for a few months front of a large window with heavy curtains to block the light but I suspect there was a lot of heat. The tank failed on a hot day.
To the question of how to judge a seam. I suspect that a seam of silicone with no tiny bubbles at all may be best, but have seen some bubbles in what have proven to be sound seams. There is a look silicone gets when glass pieces that are bonded are pulled apart. I know what it looks like but am not sure how to describe it. I have bonded glass pieces and later separated them and noted a distinct apperance. Perhaps a couple of pieces of spare glass can be bonded and allowed to set up for a week or two and then pulled apart in order to view the result. Do not bond too much surface as it may be extremely difficult to get them apart.
I have been in the practice of adding clear plastic corners to my all glass tanks. I have found some that are for protecting the outside corners of wall paper that work well with a little trimming. I attach the plastic corners to the outside of my tanks with clear silicone. My goal has been to protect the glass edges and prevent chips but it seems reasonable to think that they will add some strength to the tank seams as well. Perhaps a stronger material can be bonded to the outside corners that will add even more strength.
I also think that resealing the inside seams of a tank with silicone adds some extra bonding strength, thou perhaps not a great deal, in addition to sealing for leaks.

I've been talking about using edge protectors like that for awhile. They will help with strength imo. Where do u get them at?

Go S. Vettel #1 rb8
 
I've been talking about using edge protectors like that for awhile. They will help with strength imo. Where do u get them at?

Go S. Vettel #1 rb8

Hello; I found the last plastic corner protectors at a local hardware store. This is one of the surviving stores that has been in business for many decades and had the good fortune to be far enough away from the new big box home improvement stores like Lowes or Home Depot to be able to stay in business. I have checked in Lowes, Home Depot, ACE, 84 Lumber and the like with no success.
Ask for protectors for the outside edges for wallpaper. They were a bit too wide so I carefully scored them with a utility knife while having them clamped securely to a work table with a four foot straight edge. I took about a 1/4 inch off each side so that they would not extend too much. On bigger tanks with thicker glass and for the purpose of adding strength no triming would be a better way to go.
If you want more strength and do not mind an opaque material, perhaps thin angle aluminum would do. I suppose it could be painted black to more match the plastic trim.
 
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