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[Midwater]

You refute citations made by one of the most reputable ichthyologists in the field just on the basis of personal biases of course I'm not going to drop my argument.

They aren't the only ones.

I think they are capable of sticking a pH strip in water.

So am I.

 

[Leonardo_CH]

They aren't the only ones.



So am I.

Then find me a reputable biologist that agrees with you, I lean on Maurice Kottelat being correct.
I would take your pH readings 100% seriously if you just told me what they were instead of just claiming my source was bad.

 

[Midwater]

I have phoned an associate in Kanchanaburi, who will go to the river and test the PH as is. I will post the results.

I hope you have Kottelat's phone number. Do you have the paper where he quotes his genetic test results?

 

[krichardson]

I'm enjoying this it's good to see some action in the dat subforum,it's like the good old times.

 

[Leonardo_CH]

I have phoned an associate in Kanchanaburi, who will go to the river and test the PH as is. I will post the results.

Sounds great.

I hope you have Kottelat's phone number. Do you have the paper where he quotes his genetic test results?

I have aquired his personal e-mail, I will ask him soon.
He actually isnt the person responsible for the declassation of quadrifasciatus, that person appears to be William N. Eschmeyer, but reading about him makes me actually doubt my initial claim that the declassation occured on the basis of genetic testing, it might have been based on fisical features alone.

ITIS - Report: Datnioides quadrifasciatus

Hosted by the USGS Core Science Analytics and Synthesis. Page designed through the cooperative efforts of interagency ITIS Teams. Point of Contact: itiswebmaster@itis.gov.

www.itis.gov

Reference Summary - Eschmeyer, W.N. (ed.), 2006

fishbase.mnhn.fr

This is supposed to be the name of the paper but I have been unable to find it online, a few old links I have found dont seem to work anymore.

 

[Midwater]

Still waiting on Kanchanaburi.

I see from the ITIS report that you reference includes "invalid - junior homonym" and "verified - standards met". It does not actually say what.

And I did make a mistake, NTT is Undecimradiatus. But NTT is definitely not AT.

And still, both AT and NTT are freshwater.

 

[Midwater]

Disappointing reply from Kanchanaburi, too much effort. Not enough time and too hot.

So as a compromise, I have measured the PH in the Ping river. No dats in the Ping. I doubt that the Mae Klong would be significantly different.

As accurate as the test kit goes, somewhere between 7.0 and 7.5.