I know it's a restricted species as far as collection now, but I did not know they were illegal to sale, anyone have more info on this?
Since when are fly river turtles illegal to sale?
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I'm putting this here in FAQ as this question has long been troubling people who trade turtles around not knowing about the legal issues.
frt in the usa prior to the ban ( 1994 ?? ) are here legally.......but how to prove it is another question.
if its little it must be illegal and if its large it maybe ok.....i would think the burden of proof would be on the owner
if its little it must be illegal and if its large it maybe ok.....i would think the burden of proof would be on the owner
Fly River Turtles For Sale
Beware that before purchasing a Fly River Turtle for sale, keep in mind that they are illegal to export from their habitat. I was fortunate enough to receive a visit and an email from Scott Thomson with www.carettochelys.com . He provided me this information about Pig-Nosed Turtles for sale:
"The species has now been bred in captivity on three occasions as yet none of these animals have ever been sold. Hence there are no licenced breeders of Fly River Turtles or Pig Nose Turtles for sale and there never has been.
All Fly River Turtles on the market for sale have been smuggled out of Indonesia by locals stealing eggs from beaches. These are incubated and the hatchlings are then exported. This was the basis for the recent listing of the species on CITES II. (CITES=Convention on International Trade in Endangered Species)
Also you may want to note that as the species is CITES II. Now you cannot import them into the US anymore. The three countries in which they are found have had bans on their export for 30 years and in any case all three countries are signatories to CITES. They cannot allow their export anymore without CITES permits. Although if there ever were a licenced breeder that will sell Fly River Turtles, you could import them into the US for sale (in theory), as this has never occurred it is a moot point." - Cheers, Scott
Scott Thomson
Applied Ecology Institute
University of Canberra
www.carettochelys.com
Beware that before purchasing a Fly River Turtle for sale, keep in mind that they are illegal to export from their habitat. I was fortunate enough to receive a visit and an email from Scott Thomson with www.carettochelys.com . He provided me this information about Pig-Nosed Turtles for sale:
"The species has now been bred in captivity on three occasions as yet none of these animals have ever been sold. Hence there are no licenced breeders of Fly River Turtles or Pig Nose Turtles for sale and there never has been.
All Fly River Turtles on the market for sale have been smuggled out of Indonesia by locals stealing eggs from beaches. These are incubated and the hatchlings are then exported. This was the basis for the recent listing of the species on CITES II. (CITES=Convention on International Trade in Endangered Species)
Also you may want to note that as the species is CITES II. Now you cannot import them into the US anymore. The three countries in which they are found have had bans on their export for 30 years and in any case all three countries are signatories to CITES. They cannot allow their export anymore without CITES permits. Although if there ever were a licenced breeder that will sell Fly River Turtles, you could import them into the US for sale (in theory), as this has never occurred it is a moot point." - Cheers, Scott
Scott Thomson
Applied Ecology Institute
University of Canberra
www.carettochelys.com
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