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So, while I was lookin for native snakes this past week... I was highly unsuccessful.... however... I did find quite a few pieces of a snake skeleton.... the length of the ribs seems VERY big for most snakes around here... there is the possibility that it could be from an indigo or a large rattler but both are extremely rare and I have never seen one... however... there have been quite a few reports of red tail boas in this area..... and lookin at the piece of jaw bone... It looks very boa ish... what do you guys think?
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They were found in a pond btw...if your wondering why they are green....
 
Looks like a red tail boa... I assume you live in FL that wud help.
 
watersnakes don't have teeth like that... and I have never seen one that big around.... seen a few decent ones but they aren't really big heavy bodied snakes like that. I have never even seen a hint of cotton mouth in that area though i wish I did... actually never seen a cotton mouth in fl at all =/ i know they are around somewhere...... again.. it would have been a monstrous cotton and to my knowledge i don't think they have teeth like that either....
 
my vote is on a mud snake or something similar. They get pretty large and have some nasty dental work. it would also fit the area it was found. I though watersnake too at first since some water snakes get big and fat but judging by the shape of the vertebrae, the snake was rather cylindrical and not as angular as most watersnakes tend to be.
 
EricIvins;4573204; said:
Probably just a big Watersnake.........Or a Cotton Mouth.....
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The dorsal process is too short to be a pit viper, so it's not a cottonmouth.

The teeth have the correct curve to be a boa.

http://www.rfadventures.com/images/Animals/Reptiles/Snakes/Non Ven/boa-constrictor-skull.jpg

If you had some of the skull I'd say 100% boa, but with what you have I'm 90% sure it's a boa.

I can say 100% that it's not a cottonmouth or watersnake.


Chad Minter
http://www.envenomated.com
 
I did not even know we had mud snakes in fl.... again nothing I have ever seen and in this case not even heard of in the area. I always thought they were more swamp type snakes.... the area where this was found was much more like open grass plains with a canal running through.
Also didn't know they could get quite that big... the longest rib bone is about as long as my middle finger... that would make the snake roughly 3 or 4 inches in diameter I believe....

I did look for skull pieces...unfortunately all I found was spine ribs and that bit of mandible.... I should have collected ALL of the bones but I just grabbed a handful of ribs and vertebrae.... then looked for any other defining pieces...
 
okay, it is bigger than I thought then. I am with chad on this one now.
 
Where it not for the teeth I would have assumed it was just a big ass water snake and not even bothered to measure to really into it... but the teeth through me off because they are HUGE for water snakes or any other natives i know of.
 
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