SNAKEHEAD HELP PLESE!!

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turbotbird

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Mar 21, 2009
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I own 2 giant snakeheads that are just over 2ft long, i have kept them without incident for the last 3 years and nothing but great health and appitite have been shown from them. They had a comfy home in 230 gal tank for now with live plant and driftwood surroundings, until the tank sprung a slow leak 3 weeks ago. i am only a couple days away from having the tank going again while they stay in a 112gal tank in the mean time that always had water and a filter going..and previously housed them and healthy gars, just in case.
There weekly meal consisted of 100 lg feeder fish every sat or sun and the ocasional shrimp treat.

My problem:
i moved them from big tank to little tank as leak came upwhich went just ok, it is not fun nor easy to catch them and they defintly got a little beat up in the process but nothing that bad, 2 days later i was 2 days late on feeding so i went and got 2dzn lg feeders just for a quick snack, not knowing that they would eat them but knowing nothing has ever stayed in that tank more than a day. well 2 days later the goldfish (all but 2) were still in the tank and the water was geting cloudy i knew what was wrong, that day at work my buddy that also got feeders with me called me and said his fish were dying he thinks its bad feeders, i rush home from work and begin the very unpleaseant task of trying to catch goldfish out of a snakehead tank, my snakes had clouded eyes and bad colour and did NOT look good, i ran out and bought some aquarium salt and NOX-ICH to put in my tank incase of parisite and did a good waterchange. i decided to treat with nox-ich and only noticed a slight improvement.
Anyways my problem 20 days from bad feeders is my fish have not got much better, eyes clouded, bad color and they are jumping like crazy so bad that they are cuting there heads and lips open to the point of a bit of blood showing, against the lexan lid.

They seem to have little tiny welts under there skin poping up but not out, although i dont know if this is just from them jumping like idiots or if it is a parisite. they also wont eat ANYTHING (i tried 2 feeders and took out after 2 hrs, shrimp and crab) all in which they LOVE. they are not acting right and havent eaten in nearly 4 weeks..
Ive turned the temp up to 80 and begain a 3 day round of treatment yesterday, iv done water changes alot latly because of the before and after medicating thing and because it seams to be going a little foggy.

WHAT AM I MISSING?!?!?!? please help me out here people, i know i didnt do everything perfect but i havent had a single problem like this in 3 years of keeping them or my other tanks..im rusty.
please any help would be great, i can provide more details if need be.
Thanks for reading
 
You should always keep your feeders in a separate tank for about 2weeks to let the week ones dies off first and the ones with parasites will die also. Your snakeheads might have ich or either an internal parasite. The ich could have been passed on from the feeder or the parasite from feeder to snakehead. First DON'T dose ich meds and the salt together!! Use the salt treatment first for about 1-2weeks with lots of water changes. About 1a day. If there are no improvements within the first 1 or 2weeks(I usually do 1week) move up to the ich med after a big 50-40% water change. Until the symptoms are gone, most ich medications don't just treat ich also they treat a variety of problems. Next is your feeding. Don't always feed feeders. ANY fish needs different types of food. Just like people. I would stay away from feeders for the time being (only if you do the 2week cycle mentioned above) try pellets, sinking pellets, meaty foods such as shrimp which you have been feeding which is amazing spesh with nutrients, feed tilapia, any saltwater fish product just make sure it's fresh! No preservatives. With a extra healthy diet+salt treatment+86F-87F your fish should be healthy ASAP. Also I would lower the water level about 20% so they stop hitting the top of the tank. But the salt treatment should do it. Ich can't survive anything above 80-85F. If not move up to the ich meds. But like I said the salt treatment works 80% of the time. One of my rule of thumbs I like to go by is use natural treatments first. Hope this helps, tell us how it goes.


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Thanks a lot for your reply. I have a couple questions, should I add more salt after I do my daily water change for the next week or so? Also, am I correct to assume that even if the fish don't have ich, there would be no real harm in turning the temp up that much??
Tonight I'm going to see if they will eat some shrimp as I had no luck with them eating some crab the other day. I will do a 50 percent water change after that and keep you up dated.
Thanks for the help so far, hopfuly they can pull threw this and I can post some good pics up.
 
Thanks a lot for your reply. I have a couple questions,(1) should I add more salt after I do my daily water change for the next week or so?(1) (2) Also, am I correct to assume that even if the fish don't have ich, there would be no real harm in turning the temp up that much??(2)
(3)Tonight I'm going to see if they will eat some shrimp as I had no luck with them eating some crab the other day. I will do a 50 percent water change after that and keep you up dated.
Thanks for the help so far, hopfuly they can pull threw this and I can post some good pics up.(3)

(1) if I understood you correctly yes. For how every many X gallons you take out put X amount of tablespoons of aquarium salt back in. Make sure you mix the salt before adding into the aquarium.(like in the bucket) If you don't do that sometimes the salt directly dissolved In the tank creates unwanted toxins.

(2) no harm at all.

(3) shrimp will help a lot also a lot with being the colors back. Are they showing any interest in the food? Also what are your water parameters right now? Also check the water parameters from your tap, better to be safe then sorry. I know it doesn't really have to do with the topic but maybe just maybe it could be from bad tap water. Looking forward to seeing them better ! :)


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Ok, so last night they ate for the first time in almost a month, they both took back about 6 or 7 nice pieces of shrimp. This makes me feel a lot better. Color is slowly coming back and there eyes are less foggy but not perfectly clear.
I did a 50 percent water change and added salt. I also left almost a ft between top of water level to lid in hopes of limiting the speed in which they are hitting the lid when they jump but I don't think its going to do much as I have seen one jump from halfway in the tank, hit my ceiling, and land half in and half out of my chiclid tank next to it while I was do a water change on both tanks. Did he know where he was jumping or just luck?? Haha
Water perameters are normal, I checked. I run a 5 stage RO system and uv light disinfecting system as well.
Thanks for you advice thus far.
 
Ok, so last night they ate for the first time in almost a month, they both took back about 6 or 7 nice pieces of shrimp. This makes me feel a lot better. Color is slowly coming back and there eyes are less foggy but not perfectly clear.
I did a 50 percent water change and added salt. I also left almost a ft between top of water level to lid in hopes of limiting the speed in which they are hitting the lid when they jump but I don't think its going to do much as I have seen one jump from halfway in the tank, hit my ceiling, and land half in and half out of my chiclid tank next to it while I was do a water change on both tanks. Did he know where he was jumping or just luck?? Haha
Water perameters are normal, I checked. I run a 5 stage RO system and uv light disinfecting system as well.
Thanks for you advice thus far.

Good to hear!! You know their atmospheric breathers right? Meaning they breath the air, is your tank filled to the tip top? Just leave at least2"inches from the top allowing them to gulp the air.


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yes, fully aware of that, i normaly leave close to 4 or 5 in there plus the water level drops.
you have a snakehead?
 
yes, fully aware of that, i normaly leave close to 4 or 5 in there plus the water level drops.
you have a snakehead?

Just making sure my bad some people wouldn't think a fish needs to breath air! And I used to have snake heads until they jumped... I have a lid for all my tanks since really sucked one was a giant and one was a cobra I miss them so much... So hard to get them now a days.


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