the ones I got off of aquabid are brownish in color. have three vertical bars and look more like farmies or ocellaris. Thinking about getting rid of them. Their showing no sign of orino to me unless there up top under the LED light. Orange tails, black bars etc. I have two rio metas as well from Rapps pushing 5" and look great. Krichardson, no he has his own website now if you look his name up on google, and yes aquabid