soft shell turtle advice....

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i have three turtles in an enclosure...2/3 water 1/3 sand with a basking lamp. two soft shells and a diamond back terapin.

the diamond back and one soft shell spend most of their time in the water or basking and they eat like pigs. the other soft shell is buried in the sand.....doesnt care about food.........if i unbury him at feeding time he will bask and then bury himself................is it a problem ??

any comment welcome.........:confused: :confused: :confused:
 
Question is how long have you had him? If you have had him for a long time and he's been able to survive acting like this I wouldnt worry....
 
we have had them for about five months.....but the buried in the sand thing has only been about 4 weeks............. thanks


Gr8KarmaSF;746307; said:
Question is how long have you had him? If you have had him for a long time and he's been able to survive acting like this I wouldnt worry....
 
Softshells bury themselves in sand anyway...that is not a problem. Thr problem would be that you are housing them together, and with a hardshell turtle. They are solitary turtles, and the active Diamondback is probably causing stress. Sofites are also highly aggressive, and I can't imagine it being long before you experience problems.

Paul
 
ok thanks for the heads up......i am learning about turtles....

should each soft shell be housed separately ??

or just not with the diamond back ???

thanks

ps they are about 5 to 6 inches






paul112;747272; said:
Softshells bury themselves in sand anyway...that is not a problem. Thr problem would be that you are housing them together, and with a hardshell turtle. They are solitary turtles, and the active Diamondback is probably causing stress. Sofites are also highly aggressive, and I can't imagine it being long before you experience problems.

Paul
 
You can keep many turtles together. It comes down to space. Softshell have more problems with there shells than anything else, like bacteria. Sand is the number one thing for a softshell because in the wild the bury them self’s all the time to keep away from predators and to ambush pray. You should watch out for sharp rocks. But like the other post if you had them for awhile they should be fine. They do like fish, pieces of meat like beef heart, worms and sometimes they will eat turtle sticks.
 
What type of softshells are they?

I would keep that DBT in a sepperate tank just so he doesn't scratch the softshells capraces (they get infected really easy). And DBT would probably prefer a little more of an estuary type habitat. They like salt in their water. Depending on your softshell species, they might like salt too.

Depending on tank size you could keep both softshell turtles in the same tank, but if it is small you might have problems. I have kept softshells together many times and only once had a problem when intoducing a second male in with my two Florida softshells. My female tried to kill it (it was nasty).

I could be way off, but when I had a lot young softshells, the sick ones would always be basking or barried in the sand. Most of them would have respitory problems and usually got well on their own with good living conditions(clean water, good food, and fresh air).

Another thing to mention is that softshells like to burry themselfs in sand, but it is not always needed. I used to use sand, but I always had water quality issues. Now I use small stones (pea gravel) and I don't have to worry about bad areas in the substrate. I just gravel vac all the time. You can use sand, but I have found it to be more trouble than it is worth, for the animal. For my big softshells I use no substrate. Seeing as how my female Florida is about 5" tall(plastron to caprace), having 5" of sand or gravel would be trapping so much debris that it would always foul the water. I find that if they can hide under something or feel that they can't be grabbed all the time(big enclosures) they act fine. I never have the "diggin into nothing issue" that you see with softshells small tanks.
 
i had a soft shell that buried himself/herself all the time. the only problem is they are prone to fungal infections. i used tetra sulfa blocks in the water. that seemed to stop and keep away the fungus.
 
Let me just clarify:
Softies need a sand substrate
DBT will eat said substrate and possibly die from impaction
Softies are highly aggressive and will kill each other.

For those reasons alone, your turtles should all the housed separatly. At best, you can only expect turtles to 'tolerate' each other (appart from cooters which are naturally social)

Paul
 
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