Softening H2O, lowering pH in your huge ponds - advice?

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montyblue

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Hey all! So we used to have rays and discus a handful of years ago, and I spent a lot of time (and money...not sure which I spent more of;) trying to keep the pH down and the water soft-ish (our water here is super hard). There's a lot that's changed in the fish hobby since we had them, and a lot of people doing DIY ponds/filters/etc that I had never heard of before (which I absolutely love)! I'm trying to take advantage of all this new knowledge and come up with a better way of doing things this time around. The tank that we used before (a 380 gallon) had a large sump, and I used some (a ton, lol) softener pillows in it, and had driftwood in the tank to help a little, too. But this time around I'm planning on doing a pond that'll be around 600-800 gallons, and will need a much larger filter (and probably something completely different, since it'll be on the floor and we won't have gravity working on our side).

Which leads me to my question! I'm wondering....with so many of you having gianormous ponds and tanks, (assuming some of you have hard water and high pH) how do you control that for your rays, especially with all the water changes that are needed? Any tricks you've come across, or products that you like or find helpful? Or do you find that with so many captive bred rays now that they have adjusted a bit to harder water? Once our rays were acclimated I always felt that they were pretty hardy, but with a water volume at least double what I'm used to working with, I want to be sure that I've got a game plan!

I don't have the rays yet (hoping Trev can help me out with that sooner than later :grinno:), and when I get the pups I'll be starting them out in a 'regular' type of aquarium to keep tabs on them for a bit...but I'll be starting the pond build asap (as soon as we finalize our plans for it), and I just want to be sure that the filter we end up using will suit our needs as best as it can before we build it, so we don't have to make any post build modifications. Not fun. :D

Thanks so much for taking the time to read all that!
 
rays will acclimatize to harder water just fine. it is much more important to have a stable pH than one swinging all over the place which would cause the fish more stress.
it also makes your job easier, since you won't have to spend the money on softeners and deal with making your water change water softer. best thing to do is to set it to your water source.
 
^ what he said just acclimate the rays properly and keep the ph stable at what your water source is and you won't have any issues unless for some strange reason it is way over 8.0 or something crazy
 
Awesome, good to know...that'll help a ton. Our water straight out of the tap is 7.8...I didn't know if that was pushing it. For our little planted/community tank I get RO water from work for water changes, but I can't even consider trying that with hundreds of gallons. Lol!

Now I at least feel better about the big pond, and can enjoy getting the rest of the pup tank ready. I just need to find me some rays...! ;)

Thanks so much, guys! Appreciate it!


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my water is 8-8.5 and my rays are fine.
also, planted tanks like minerals, which hard water does contain. RO water lacks any source of minerals for the plants.
to be honest, you're better off with the tap water than the RO.
 
Thanks again for the info! Yes, I know RO water lacks it all...I mix it with tap water just to keep the ph down a little for the fish, and we do fertilizers for the plants (fluorite for the substrate). It's not a super heavily planted tank, though.

I had to get out of rays probably 7 or 8 years ago? Maybe 9 at the most? It was back when you could still order leo's from distributors, LOL! I was into rays before I was married, and when we had kids I realized I just couldn't do both (I put as much into them as I did my kids, you know?). Anyway, it's just been way too long, and my love of rays just never left. And my kids are self sufficient now. LOL! :)
 
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