Some Fish Just Don't Mix.

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Stibnite

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Well, I learned a valuable lesson recently.

I've spent many years in the hobby, and came across some rediculously strange situations, but none like what happened this time.

I have a really large african setup with everything from angry venustus to mike tyson demasonis. I must say, this tank, while rewarding, is also the most taxing to take care of.

African cichlids are amazing fighters, and bloody aggressive by all means.

Some, however, take their flank-attacking, eye biting, and domineering personalities to a whole new level.

Johannii's are tough and mean, and can hold their own against a fish twice their size easily.

On the other hand, I have one male Melanochromis auratus about an inch shorter than my Johannii's that started ripping every fish in the tank a new fin.

This guy is roughly 4" long if he's lucky, yet he fought off a group of 5 other african cichlids larger than himself at the same time.

In a panick, I took this guy out of my African tank, as anyone who keeps africans know how bloody expensive some of them area--especially those sensative Dimidiochromis compressiceps. He was trying to kill the whole tank.

This is where my hurried mistake began--I was afraid to put this guy anywhere. My sick bays were full, and after giving it some thought, I decided to acclimate him temporarily to one of my South American tanks that I keep with a little higher Ph than the others.

I place him in this tank with 9"-14" Cichlids. I was afraid he was going to get eaten in the tank, but I was running late for work, and honestly, a $2.99 fish isn't going to be that great of a loss for me if he does get eaten. So I took the chance to avoid my other africans going through anymore stress, and I headed on to work.

Coming home later that day, I expected to come home to a missing Auratus.

What did I find, however?

I walked in and my jaw fell limp as I witnessed this little monster going Jackie Chan on my 10" Jaguar Managuense. He was beating the crap out of a 10" Jaguar that couldn't catch him.

Meanwhile, another sight caught my eye, as on the floor of the aquarium floated the remains of my 9" Green Terror.

The Green Terror was mutilated--torsa chew off on both sides, tail completely demolished, scales ripped off, and fins missing. Never in my life have I seen anything like that.

Meanwhile, I looked at the rest of the fish in my tank, and they were all huddled in a corner of the aquarium and frightened out of their minds.

Folks... I have heard of Africans being aggressive and taking on larger fish and all, but this situation took a whole new meaning to me.

I never thought in all my years in the hobby that any 4" fish could cause such devastation.

I have owned female Auratus before and didn't experience this type of behavior; this was my first time trying out a male, however.

I yanked him out of that tank before he caused any more damage to my Jag. Not knowing what else to do, I put him in my frog tank. Now the guy sits there staring at the glass all day with nothing to do.

I gotta say, lesson learned. I will never buy another male Auratus again.

Now, I must lament over the loss of a 9" Gorgeous Male Green Terror that I've had for quite a long time.

My LFS has some 10g fully equipped setups available for $35 right now. Maybe I will get one of those, and just put him in that tank by himself.

Don't get me wrong, I love aggressive fish, and own a ton of them--but that little guy made a pirahna look like a silver dollar--and without the capable bite to boot. I think he pulled it off with pure dexterity after watching how he tore into the fins of my much larger Jag.

I'll get a picture of the evil critter up soon so folks can see the wrothful monster.
 
interesting story, sorry about your loss of the GT...I've lost some of my oldtimer cichlids over the past year due to tankmate aggression. I guess that is the unfortunate part of keeping cichlids
 
I've got a Haplochromis (Xystichromis) Phytophagus that acts like that. The bugger is at about 3"-4" but was constantly challenging fish up to 4x his size, and winning. I ended up putting him and his girlfriend in their own 55 gallon tank to breed feeders for my Datnoid and Polys lol.
 
Alright, got pictures of the monster.

This guy has kept his dark dominant colors since he was about in inch long. I thought he was prettier when yellow and black striped as a juvie. Now, he nearly blends in with the Johanniis.

Additionally, I took a shot of the frozen remains of my Green Terror--what's left of him anyways.

I just cannot fathom how that little guy did this to my larger Cichlids.

Since I removed him from the African Tank, peace has reigned, and now no more fins appear torn.

Take caution when purchasing a male Auratus. All I can say.

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well i can vouch for african aggression! i kept africans for a few years-and they can be monsters. i had a female Kenyi that completely OWNED an entire 180 gallon tank along with a dominant male Venustus (he was probably 9 inches). so since i had no where else to put the fish, it met the porcelain gods... (sad to admit i did that, but i was so mad when i did it i wasnt thinking clearly lol).

i find that africans are faaaar more aggressive than any SA/CA ive ever owned so far..
 
Woah... Poor GT... condolences my man :(
 
navygirl76;3721400; said:
well i can vouch for african aggression! i kept africans for a few years-and they can be monsters. i had a female Kenyi that completely OWNED an entire 180 gallon tank along with a dominant male Venustus (he was probably 9 inches). so since i had no where else to put the fish, it met the porcelain gods... (sad to admit i did that, but i was so mad when i did it i wasnt thinking clearly lol).

i find that africans are faaaar more aggressive than any SA/CA ive ever owned so far..

when it comes to pound for pound aggression, I definitely agree with you..especially with some of the nasty mbunas
 
I had a 3" male demasoni do this too. I put it in a tank with a 5" red devil, 5" buttikoferi, and 5" gt and came back the next day and all the fishes fins were shredded, and they were all huddled in the corner with the demasoni holding ground. Evil little thing. I let the LFS deal with him.
 
Wow, I can't believe what he did to that GT! We have a 2.5"-3" male auratus, who used to terrorize the rest of the mbuna, but now that's the bigger red zebra's favorite hobby. Nobody messes with our 2" bumblebee, though!
 
jaysinnva;3724897; said:
Wow, I can't believe what he did to that GT! We have a 2.5"-3" male auratus, who used to terrorize the rest of the mbuna, but now that's the bigger red zebra's favorite hobby. Nobody messes with our 2" bumblebee, though!


Yeah, really blew my mind. My Green Terror was large enough to swallow this guy. When I came in though, what I witnessed was this guy flanking from underneath the fish and biting behind the pectorals. When the bigger fish tried to turn around, he roll-flipped up and over to the other side of the fish and attacked the dorsal while rolling, and then slammed into the pectorals and gills again. He did this over and over, and with extreme dexterity--was so, so fast! Mind you, I witnessed this on the Jag he was attacking which could have held 5 Auratus' in his mouth at the same time. Just blew me away that he was losing to what could have otherwise been deemed a food fish for him.

Imagine a feeder goldfish beating up your Oscar--that's how I felt!

I have an aggressive Demasoni also, but he's no where near that mean--he simply holds his own against all other fish (except for my lyretail brichardi--which he's terrified of for some reason).

I'll miss my Green Terror. He was one of the most peaceful males I ever owned.
 
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