at 1st i was sure these were c. spirulus then they changed and started to look more like c. cutteri. now however all the vertical barring is fading away and 1 is starting to develop a sajica-like horizontal stripe. its stronger than shown in the pic due to flash glare but you get the idea
the 2nd is also losing vertical barring and looks like this
the 2nd is also losing vertical barring and looks like this