Sometimes 'feeders' just don't get eaten

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notho2000

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Over the years, it has been my practice, like many other breeders, to feed unwanted fry to fish in other tanks. A net full here ... a net full there... and so on. Well sometimes a few fry manage to escape the "jaws of death" (I know ... a little overly dramatic). Case in point, I have had Paraneetroplus breidohri for a few years now and they are prolific, to say the least. I don't know if there is any species I've ever had that has spawned as much. About a year ago, I dumped a bunch of 1/4" fry into my 180G Madagascan tank, containing adult P. polleni, P. grandidieri, and P. menarambo. There is plenty of structure in there, and over the last year I've been watching a few 'breidohri' carving out a small niche for themselves. They are an aggressive, bold, and fiesty fish. It's not uncommon to see a 2" female pushing and nipping at a fish five times her size. To be sure, Madagascar cichlids aren't the best piscivores so it isn't surprising that some survived, two females and a male. They are now between 4" and 5", growing slowly into beautiful specimens. The females have been flirting with every fish in the tank, hoping to get "lucky". One female, when she was about 3", singled out a 10" Ptychochromis grandidieri as her potential mate, and she certainly had his attention, but ultimately, he just couldn't figure her out. Both females have spawned a couple of times all by themselves. Where was the male in all of this? Neither female would accept him as a mate ... until now. Here are some pics of the precocious 'breidohri', swimming about like they own the tank, keeping the Madagascans on their toes ... er, I mean fins.

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We had a thing like this happen to my wife cold water shocked some fenestratus for Frontosa food. Long story short not all the feeders got eaten came to and in typical Paratherap fashion became impossible to catch. Only good thing was they never spawned.
Are your pollen the large or small spot?
 
Crazy enough, Jim, I had a monster East Coast Gold spawn with a female acara. They eggs didn't hatch but they seemed to figure out the process!

Matt

"Stranger than fiction", as they say. I've had a few odd couples myself over the years. Last year, a male Hypsophrys nicaraguensis and a female Paraneetroplus hartwegi spawned 3 or 4 times. The eggs reached the wriggler stage but I didn't bother to save any young.

We had a thing like this happen to my wife cold water shocked some fenestratus for Frontosa food. Long story short not all the feeders got eaten came to and in typical Paratherap fashion became impossible to catch. Only good thing was they never spawned.
Are your pollen the large or small spot?

I've got 3 Paratilapia variants, polleni Fony 'East Coast' (a small spot), sp. Andapa (large spot) and polleni 'Maralambo' (large spot).
 
Wow that is great had any luck spawning the large spots yet? Yo are starting to become my idol with all the different uncommon fish you have. Any chance I could talk you into moving to Alberta like the town of Three Hills.
 
Wow that is great had any luck spawning the large spots yet? Yo are starting to become my idol with all the different uncommon fish you have. Any chance I could talk you into moving to Alberta like the town of Three Hills.

No, the Andapa and Maralambo are immature at this point. The Andapa should be of breeding age in about 6 months. Regarding moving , I'd pack my bags tomorrow, and I'm sure Three Hills is great, but my wife would be wanting something a little warmer. :D
 
That's easy to fix any place is warmer than Winnipeg in the winter and has less Mosquitoes in the summer.
 
As an aside, I have a wild Australoheros (chanchito) male that decided to spawn with a female F1 Lago Coatepeque convict (that jumped from the tank above it and has been living with the chanchitos and some Gymnogeos through the winter cool down. There are hundreds of fry...but unfortunately the pair killed everything else in the tank.

C'est la vie!

Matt
 
Here's a picture I took tonight of one of the "feeder" breidohri females guarding her large clutch of fungused eggs she laid two days ago. She wasn't able to entice the male away from the other female, so she went ahead and spawned anyways. She has done this a few times now. Just to her right, the menarabo pair that spawned about a month ago, decided it was time for another.

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