South American Cichlid ID help

[dragonfish70]

Could anyone ID this Fish for me please? Scientific name and how much it is worth? Fish is healthy and very nicely colored around 5-6" territorial but not overly aggressive only housed with convicts can hold its own pretty well.


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[tjrcf25]

Vieja are usually difficult to know for sure since they are often mixed with other Vieja. If its a purebred, my guess would be hartwegi, though it could also be a bifa. More likely a hartwegi in my opinion.

 

[6 bar]

I agree. Looks like Hartwegi.

 

[dragonfish70]

What would be a fair price for this guy just incase I need tank space? Planning on a 55 gallon CA/SA cichlid tank but may not happen. Oh and in your opinion male or female?


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[Cichlaholics Anonymous]

Looks like a bifa to me, but these become hard to tell apart. A 55 would be ok for now, but long term if you want tankmates and optimal conditions, go bigger. If not possible, pass on the vieja

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[fishman09]

hertwegi tend to have that elongated body from what ive seen like that one so my best guess would be for paratheraps hartwegi

 

[dragonfish70]

Heres some better pics.


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[Rayshot1]

Either way a very nice looking fish

 

[dragonfish70]

Anyone want to take him? Just found out I wont be able to set up my 55 for awhile. dont want it to be miserable in my 30 gallon


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[duanes]

One way to distinguish hartwegi, from bifas, is hartwegi has an overbite.
A close up of the mouth would help.
But for reference, below is a bifas. And not that it matters, but they are Central American.