Spontaneous Eating Habbits?

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Brian O

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Nov 17, 2011
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Hello All!

I'm a noob to this forum and keeping pirahna. I got my first red belly in September and housed him in a 20 gallon tank until upgrading to a 55 when I received 3 more piranha. All were about 2 to 2.5" in length. Since moving to the new tank, my eldest pirahna hasn't been eating like he used to months ago. The problem started just before I moved them from the 20 to 55 gallon tank.

I made sure to keep my water parameters in check as best as I could and given my constant checks, nothing is out of line i.e nitrites, ph, hardness etc. The only thing that is on the high side that I can't seam to fix is carbonate hardness, it is very high but it has been since day one, even when they were all healthy.

My eldest piranha is otherwise very healthy and colorful but his growth has all but halted. So much so, his smaller tankmate piranhas are catching up to him and may even be larger than him now. I'm kind of at a loss as to what is going on. He used to LOVE krill and brine shrimp and even ciclid pellets. He stopped eating all of them so I moved onto raw chicken and steak which he liked for a week or so and is now back to eating nothing. I bought fresh frozen shrimp from the market and he, and his other three tank mates loved it...for a week or so.

Now this brings us to today. As of recent, all my piranha suddenly stopped eating all together. I read that they do this sometimes so I made sure the tank was clean, did a 25% water change etc. With no luck, I isolated my eldest problematic piranha from the others back into the 20 gallon tank to try and coax him back to health in his own environment. He seems to have really liked that change b/c he's swimming around much more than before, albeit still not eating. There is food in the tank, so I guess he'll eat when he feels like it unless you guys can think of something else to try.

This morning, the day after I moved my eldest pirahna out of the tank, the other three remaining in the 55 gallon tank, whom had not been eating, decided to eat the smallest of the three and left half of it floating at the top of the tank for me this morning. My biggest question is, even after all the food I kept offering to them, why would they just eat one of their own instead?? Any and all information would be wonderful.

Thanks,
B
 
Hi Brian, welcome to MFK.
what size are they and how frequent do you feed them? do you have any pictures of them?
what kind of filtration do you have? what's your nitrate level? water temperature?
most of the time aggression amount piranhas are not out of hunger, when you moved one out of the 55g the remaining three may fight over the new packing order or new territory that just opened up.
 
Here is some info I can supply while still being at work. I run my water temperature at 82F respectively. Also, the filtration I use came with the tank as a kit made by the company Tetra. Its a hefty filter system with two carbon filter bags and moves some serious water. Enought to create a healthy current. My nitrite level is right next to 0 ppm. As stated, the only problem I've had forever with my water is the high carbonate hardness.

Just before my one piranha was eaten, he had had a few nips taken out of his tail by what I thought was my eldest pirahna named "Frank". I hoped by removing one of the four it was lessen the stress in the tank...seems it was lessened by one whole fish in the end!

I was feeding them, if I could help, twice a day. Once in the early AM, once later at night. If they slowed down consuming what I put in, (lets say a shrimp per fish) I lessen the feeding to once a day.

Hopes this helps,
B
 
Generally with rbp the higher the temp the higher the aggression, try 77° and feed once a day, try small live feeders to get their attention, piranhas are weird. Goodluck!
 
Temp that low would lead to lethargy i would think.... id say get more but thatd not practical with a 55 i guess not defining the root prob is just as bad
 
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