Stocking a 75 with some SAs

[Mythic Figment]

So I have decided that when I get a large community SA tank setup and move everyone from my 75 into that tank, I want to setup a more aggressive tank in the 75.

I want to stock around a single white saum female. I want to keep it SA and would prefer something of equal aggression and equal or lesser size. Suggestions?


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[virgil2090]

i have 2 small brasiliensis now,they seem to hold their own,not getting pushed around with chocolates,blue acaras.another acara to try is diadema

 

[Mythic Figment]

i have 2 small brasiliensis now,they seem to hold their own,not getting pushed around with chocolates,blue acaras.another acara to try is diadema

Think a blue acara and a Satanoperca would work?


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[virgil2090]

I have no experience with santo.would they be better in groups? I have heard that GT and blue acaras can be hit or miss together looking so similar...if you try it maybe go for a female

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[Mythic Figment]

I have no experience with santo.would they be better in groups? I have heard that GT and blue acaras can be hit or miss together looking so similar...if you try it maybe go for a female

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I don't have Satanoperca experience either, but I've always thought they were cool looking fish. As far as groups, I have no idea. I have seen both groups and singles and they appear to be fine either way.

Now that I think of it, blue acaras and GTs do cross breed a lot, so I think I should avoid that combo. Especially since true blue acaras that don't have any GT in them tend to be much more passive than GTs.




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[fug202]

It's generally recommended that Satanoperca be kept in groups, although I can't say whether a lone individual would suffer. However, they are not particularly aggressive - if your White Saum is feisty, it may be too much for a Satanoperca to handle. What about a medium-sized pike cichlid, or Geophagus brasiliensis - they are robust and can hold their own. Same goes for Krobia xinguensis (red-cheek Krobia). You could also try some Aequidens species, like metae or tetramerus.

 

[Mythic Figment]

It's generally recommended that Satanoperca be kept in groups, although I can't say whether a lone individual would suffer. However, they are not particularly aggressive - if your White Saum is feisty, it may be too much for a Satanoperca to handle. What about a medium-sized pike cichlid, or Geophagus brasiliensis - they are robust and can hold their own. Same goes for Krobia xinguensis (red-cheek Krobia). You could also try some Aequidens species, like metae or tetramerus.

Okay, I will pass on the Satanoperca then.

What is the size range of a medium sized pike? I can find pikes that only reach 4-5" and I can find pikes that reach 16-18", but nothing in between.

I have never been a fan of bras geos. Just not my thing for some reason.

I actually have four Krobia xinguensis that will eventually go into the large SA tank with some Retroculus lapidifers.

I might do the Aequidens metae. They look pretty cool.

Do you think some Cichlasoma dimerus might work?


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[fug202]

I don't have much experience with larger pikes - only the dwarf varieties. Consider checking the Crenicichla subforum for recommendations. I'm not sure whether C. dimerus would work - aren't they a species that tolerates (and perhaps requires) a cool down period? Perhaps it depends on where they were collected - might be fine. G. brasiliensis come in a variety of color varieties, but to each his own in terms of preference. I really like the colors on this female I've had a for a while.

 

[spazmattik]

you have gradually been wanting to go more aggressive. just jump into the deep end and get a red devil!

 

[bbortko]

A bellycrawler would be a great pike for that tank. Mine is a good 8" and generally minds its business but every once in a while it will chase my 9" melanurus all over the tank. Had a jurupari once and it did fine by itself, actually schooled with my silver dollars, but better suited for angels and discus then saums. Personally I wouldn't do a blue acara, a pair of saums just seems more interesting than 1 of each. A 75 may be too small for both but a meyesi or kraussi would be a nice contrast to the saum.