Stupidly orange tapajos.

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Jack Dempsey
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Are there different types of geophagus orangeheads tapajos? I have noticed there seems to be variations in their colour. Now I know this is the case with most fish but I have seen some really bland orangeheads and then these is this guy.....
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Wow! I've had many of them but none were anywhere near that colorful. Amazing.
 
Beautiful specimen. The exaggerated Color may be him asserting his dominance. All of his fins are flared too.


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From what I have seen the further they breed away from F0 the more muted the orange head becomes.
 
My males look like that.
 
I believe the difference is when they feel insulted over someone calling them redheads instead of orangeheads, then they pout about being thought of as a much uglier geo than they are.
 
I've bred them and you simply get individual differences. Plus mood, food, water quality, dominance, parental genes, and age can make a difference. Nothing to do with F0 being nicer and nothing to do with farther from F0 being less colorful. With each spawn you'll get a few that color up early and/or have outstanding color. Given a good combination of genes in the parents some of the offspring can be even more colorful than the parents, which can also happen in other fish. Like a lot of other fish I've bred, you can get what I call 'stealth males' that can be smaller, less dominant, less colorful early, but later on turn out to be nice fish in their own right.

How red or how orange they look can also vary with food, lighting, mood, or individual. By the time you get several generations away from wild, it's going to be about the quality of your genetic line and/or the combination of genes from the parents, just like just most other fish. I've done way too much breeding of too many species from wild to various generations further down the line not to know the quality of offspring is about the quality of your stock and the genetic combinations of individual parents as much as how close to wild you are.
 
Here's a couple of my males.

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I've bred them and you simply get individual differences. Plus mood, food, water quality, dominance, parental genes, and age can make a difference. Nothing to do with F0 being nicer and nothing to do with farther from F0 being less colorful. With each spawn you'll get a few that color up early and/or have outstanding color. Given a good combination of genes in the parents some of the offspring can be even more colorful than the parents, which can also happen in other fish. Like a lot of other fish I've bred, you can get what I call 'stealth males' that can be smaller, less dominant, less colorful early, but later on turn out to be nice fish in their own right.

How red or how orange they look can also vary with food, lighting, mood, or individual. By the time you get several generations away from wild, it's going to be about the quality of your genetic line and/or the combination of genes from the parents, just like just most other fish. I've done way too much breeding of too many species from wild to various generations further down the line not to know the quality of offspring is about the quality of your stock and the genetic combinations of individual parents as much as how close to wild you are.

Thanks for the in depth response.

How do you best get your orangeheads to breed? I currently have a male (in the above pic) and 5 juvies growing out (some of which are also in the pics) - these 6 fish are from 4 blood lines and I really want them to breed, at least one pair.

At what size are you able to sex them?

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