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coura

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I know several people here make part of hobby organizations that figth for our rigth to do what we love :) I would like to make a sugestion if you guys havent already though of it (I higly doubt you havent but ayways...). I think these hobby organizations besides the GREAT job they already do should have another task as well: make studbooks of less often kept species. This info which would be confidential, would show who is keeping what and where. And with this kind of thing we could avoid situations like what is going on today with lace monitors. If the numbers of a certain species fall bellow a certain number, if the species is rare to beggin with, if a big number of animals perish or if a very interesting mating is in sigth, these animals would be given priority and people would be very encoraged to breed them. There is of corse allot of details that need to be taken into acount, but it would be great to have a studbook made by hobbists for hobbists.
Unfornatly extinction isnt unherd of in our hobby (even tho sucesses greatly outnumber those!). In Europe we used to have hellbenders, but they slippered into forgotten:(
Golliath frogs, black lacerta pater, centralian death aders, indian pythons, several frogs,etc, were once very popular (or at least much more then they are now) and they all are now extremelly rare in private hands...if there are any left.
There is allways hope, here in Europe the population of exuma island iguana is on the increase from once a practicly handfull of them and there hasbeen a recent sucess of Iguana delicatissima, but that is because the rigth animals were in the rigth hands. All of this animals are amazing and worth keeping, but if we want to be able to do that for a good long time, we must be prepared to go the extra mile and prepair their future.
Many species out there even to they arent fortunatly yet on the level of the very rare, still they are few and far between and vulnerable to get in th list of the very rare if the trend goes on. From mali uros to big head turtles. A stud book isnt the awnser to all but would be a step in the rigth direction.
 
I could not agree more.

But, as opposed to dogs, horses or are typicall stud book species, herpers tend to be secretive with their animals.

No way will you get all persons to admit to what they have. It is an impossible task, imho.
 
I think Coura, with your extensive knowledge of most things chelonian, and a considerable understanding of many other herps, you could start the ball rollin.
 
I completely agree. Even though miguel is right but the ones that are willing i defiantly think we should. But i think that it should be completely private and full discloser to the ones doing it.
 
AFRO-thunder;4751244; said:
no need to reinvent the wheel: www.studbooks.org
There is not one of those in the US yet. I would ad much more species to the Europe one as well, but I gess that is on the making :) For example Anolis allisoni, Gopherus sp, Cyclura sp, Brachylophus sp, Uromastix sp, Zonosaurus sp, Calumma sp, etc, would make great aditions.
 
snakefin;4751022; said:
I think Coura, with your extensive knowledge of most things chelonian, and a considerable understanding of many other herps, you could start the ball rollin.
I have enough trobble already in the dating service I have to provide for my own critters ;)
 
Of course there are many species you could add to that programme. But the good thing about it is that the people who run this organisation are quite flexible when it comes to open new studbooks. If there's somebody who does it, then a new studbook is created. I bet it's also possible to start one in the USA.
We also should not forget the studbooks by the World zoo association. They are primarily intended for zoos, but for really rare species I have heard that they also incorporate private people.
 
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