sump and ac100 questions

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im getting a 125g this week and i was wondering which would work better : 2 ac100s or a 10g sump. please dont flame, I have no idea how sumps work or what size they need to be. if anyone could explain that would be great. thanks
 
Just putting a sump down there won't do anything, you still need a pump to lift the water back up along with plumbing and filter material for the sump. Also I'd use a much bigger sump for a 125g. I'd go for a used 55g tank or something personally. It will also probably need to drilled for fittings.

Do you mean AC110s? I would just get two of them for now as the pair will filter a 125g pretty decent. And you can get the pair for like $100 using the code from Dr Foster Smith. CLICK HERE FOR HOW TO GET CHEAP FILTER

As for how/why a sump?

- Water pours from the tanks overflows into sump.
- Through filter material of your choice inside the sump
- out of the drain in sump into the pump
- pump then pumps it back into the tank

The amount of filter material you can fit in a sump is much larger than any normal filter.
The increased surface area for filtration results in less frequent cleanings and a more stable environment for your fish.
The large increase in water volume of the system also adds to stability as well as helping the temperature stay constant, larger the body of water the longer it takes to go up/down in temp.
Also if the sump is large enough you can put your heaters in it to keep the tank less cluttered.
Also if the sump is large enough you can do the water changes within it instead of probing all over your tank with a siphon tube. Plus it will need cleaned anyway because crap will buildup like it's supposed to.
 
You can easily build a sump for $100. I would go with a sump and then go a pump too. If you are looking for a fast easy solution, go with the ACs.
 
You don't need a 55G sump. But I don't think a 10G will do it. I'd say at least a 20G.

You can get a 20G tank, and a 5G bucket.
The bucket will sit on the rim of the 20G tank. You can fill the bucket with biomedia and have you water dump in the bucket.

Cut holes in the bottom of the bucket so that the water flows into the sump.
Then use a pump to get the water back to the fish tank.

That you can do pretty cheaply.
You can get two AC 110's for about $70.
 
polish;2262478; said:
Just putting a sump down there won't do anything, you still need a pump to lift the water back up along with plumbing and filter material for the sump. Also I'd use a much bigger sump for a 125g. I'd go for a used 55g tank or something personally. It will also probably need to drilled for fittings.

Do you mean AC110s? I would just get two of them for now as the pair will filter a 125g pretty decent. And you can get the pair for like $100 using the code from Dr Foster Smith. CLICK HERE FOR HOW TO GET CHEAP FILTER

As for how/why a sump?

- Water pours from the tanks overflows into sump.
- Through filter material of your choice inside the sump
- out of the drain in sump into the pump
- pump then pumps it back into the tank

The amount of filter material you can fit in a sump is much larger than any normal filter.
The increased surface area for filtration results in less frequent cleanings and a more stable environment for your fish.
The large increase in water volume of the system also adds to stability as well as helping the temperature stay constant, larger the body of water the longer it takes to go up/down in temp.
Also if the sump is large enough you can put your heaters in it to keep the tank less cluttered.
Also if the sump is large enough you can do the water changes within it instead of probing all over your tank with a siphon tube. Plus it will need cleaned anyway because crap will buildup like it's supposed to.
alright thanks for your help. im going to get started on building a sump but for now ac110's will do fine. thanks again
 
Verbosity;2262561; said:
You don't need a 55G sump. But I don't think a 10G will do it. I'd say at least a 20G.

You can get a 20G tank, and a 5G bucket.
The bucket will sit on the rim of the 20G tank. You can fill the bucket with biomedia and have you water dump in the bucket.

Cut holes in the bottom of the bucket so that the water flows into the sump.
Then use a pump to get the water back to the fish tank.

That you can do pretty cheaply.
You can get two AC 110's for about $70.
$70 where? i only know about the petco deal
 
Verbosity;2262561; said:
You can get two AC 110's for about $70.


Please share with us where you can get this price.


Realize that you sump will have to have the capacity to hold enough water to submerge you pump and also hold the overflow from the main tank when the power is out.

One inch of water from your 125g is over 5.5 gallons, average overflows drop about 2.5 to 3" of the tanks waterline.
 
Bderick67;2264664; said:
Please share with us where you can get this price.


Realize that you sump will have to have the capacity to hold enough water to submerge you pump and also hold the overflow from the main tank when the power is out.

One inch of water from your 125g is over 5.5 gallons, average overflows drop about 2.5 to 3" of the tanks waterline.
i realize that. thank you
 
forget what everyone said. Your obvioulsy new to the hobby since you don't know much about sumps. Truly a sump if set up right can be the best filtration. Now set up right means a proper pump to make sure your getting sbout 7-8x turnover in your tank. (if your not gonna do this and gonna add a HOB then don't bother) A pump like that would cost you atleast $100 bucks. Then you need to make a sump which can be made very easily for another $100. So $200 total. If this is something you don't want to invest in, two AC110's will cost you like $100 bucks total and will do the job just as good.
 
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