I acquired a 48x12x17 tank and am intending to turn it into a sump. My idea is to run it thought mech filtration, then to a moving bed bio chamber on to a wet/dry trickle then back to the tank. What are your thoughts and or opinions on this set up and what kind of return flow rate would be best, low flow for contact or high flow for turnover. Tank has 2 hystrix and a dozen geos. Thanks guys!
Sump idea for 210
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IMO that tank is to small for a sump and what I mean by to small is to narrow. Also, it is 40g full but a sump will only operate at 1/3 to half at most so that doesnt give a lot of wiggle room when the power fails and the sump fills up.
I am speaking from experience. My 210 is filtered through a home made sump utilizing a 48g acrylic tank. I think if you do pull the trigger and go for it, definitely do the fluidized bio to save room. It would be wise to utilize check valves to safeguard flooding.
Anyway, good luck.
I am speaking from experience. My 210 is filtered through a home made sump utilizing a 48g acrylic tank. I think if you do pull the trigger and go for it, definitely do the fluidized bio to save room. It would be wise to utilize check valves to safeguard flooding.
Anyway, good luck.
I'm running a herbie overflow from my 210g tank to a 55g sump. Twin drains connect to a single drain which dumps into a filter sock, ceramic rings in a basket between drain and return pump (Mag 18), simple.
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I would like to do a 60x18x18 but aquiring the tank may be a little more of a problem and or expensive than I would like. Check valves and carefully planned overflows should help my overflow dilemma...I hope. Going to search a little longer for a bigger tank but if not the 45 will have to do.
My commercial sump is about 8 gallons. I never had a problem with running it on my 110g tank.
I don't quite understand what you mean about a moving bed bio chamber? Do you mean a fluidized sand bed or maybe a chamber of suspended K1 media?
I don't quite understand what you mean about a moving bed bio chamber? Do you mean a fluidized sand bed or maybe a chamber of suspended K1 media?
What are the actual sump dimensions? What should I look at in term of turnover, higher or lower? I've heard good arguments on both sides. Yes I was referring to a suspended media chambr, wasn't quite sure what to call it. They seem to do really well with bio filtering then followed by a wet/dry trickle there should be no need for me to have to clean anything but the mech filtration monthly. Am I wishful thinking or could this work well?
This is similar to what i run on my 225. I have dual drains into a filter sock. I have about 60#'s of ceramic media in the 55g and 2 quite one 6000's for returns. It has about a 10x turnover and is super easy to maintain and works good.
I would like to have a bigger sump so i could incorporate a uv into it as well as more media and a chamber for pothos. I would also like to add a glass bead filter like the ones kendragon runs
Dont skimp on filtration!
To me a 40G for a 210g is plenty. The bigger the sump the more flexibility you will have... this is very true. But since you already have the 40 use it! It will do a great job for you!
My sump is about 10" wide, 12" high and 14" long. It is a commercial sump I picked up off of craigslist and rated for a 150g tank. There is one large chamber for bioballs and a small chamber for easy pump access. Sumps can be much fancier but I don't think they will be considerably more effective than my small commercial unit.
I have everything to build a 29g sump including the tank and bio balls. I don't know how I would fill much more than a 29g sump with media. 5 gallons of bioballs is a LOT and they aren't that cheap. My commercial sump has about 2 gallons of bio balls and that has always been plenty for my 110g. The extra 3 gallons of bioballs will probably be a complete waste... but I like to have a huge gas exchange surface area for the water.
I have never felt a need to run anything in my sump other than the bio balls, an air stone under the bio balls, the pad prefilter and the submersible heater. I will be experimenting with filter socks when I build the 29g sump since I will have so much room to put them in.
My sump is about 10" wide, 12" high and 14" long. It is a commercial sump I picked up off of craigslist and rated for a 150g tank. There is one large chamber for bioballs and a small chamber for easy pump access. Sumps can be much fancier but I don't think they will be considerably more effective than my small commercial unit.
I have everything to build a 29g sump including the tank and bio balls. I don't know how I would fill much more than a 29g sump with media. 5 gallons of bioballs is a LOT and they aren't that cheap. My commercial sump has about 2 gallons of bio balls and that has always been plenty for my 110g. The extra 3 gallons of bioballs will probably be a complete waste... but I like to have a huge gas exchange surface area for the water.
I have never felt a need to run anything in my sump other than the bio balls, an air stone under the bio balls, the pad prefilter and the submersible heater. I will be experimenting with filter socks when I build the 29g sump since I will have so much room to put them in.
If bio balls and pot scrubbers were the same price which ones are u guys gonna use and why? Again I've heard positive and negative things about both.
Would 2 1" overflows with a quiet one 6000 provide enough turnover. They are 1214 gph at 5' head. Or should I look for more turnover?