Im looking for a generalized list of other fish species that are good with polypterus. Take away things like tank size, fish size etc etc. All id like is the other speices name. Any help would be great. 
Tank mates with ANY Polypterus species
- Thread starter shawntraviss
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umm, other polypterus, nething they cant eat, and notheing that can eat them, that just about summs it up right???
no aggressive cichlids or plecos. cichlids eat all the food and pleco can develop a taste for slime coat. i agree with grman also.
I know other polypterus work well but im thinking stuff for the other half of the tank, somthing top or middle dwelling
Compatibility, the reality
When asked "will they get along ?" Sometimes the answer is as simple as yes or no, The truth is we speak in generalities some fish in theory should be ok together some not.The long broad sweeping statements are flawed as they are generalities I think we all know generalities are just opinions , but because we are dealing with animals each with its own personality its flawed.This question is harder with predatory fish, due to their natural habits ,predation! where they naturaly feed on the smaller , the weaker and the sick, claim territory and defend it . The actual answer is we don't know it's our best guess that they should or shouldn't get along.I know one of my bichirs is highly agressive which is completely different from what i have been told, so he's in his own tank , my others all conspecifics seem fine together which is oppisite from what i have read and been told. Its a case of trial and error to some extent and depends on the individual animal. When introducing a new animal into the territory of an established animal try rearanging the tank it tends to remove reference points for territoriality but most important watch for trouble and stop it before it goes to far.
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Tankmates
Below is a partial list of possible tankmates for the small to midsized bichirs species.Parameters I used are based on size, temperment and availabilty . And i believe is a good starting point for you to do further research before purchasing -Anne
CATFISH
Dusky Pimelodid-Pimelodus blochii
Giraffe Catfish-Auchenoglanis occidentalis
Dwarf giraffe Catfish-Parauchenoglanis macrostoma
Giant Whiptail Catfish-Sturisoma aureum
Synodontis alberti
Synodontis angelicus
Synodontis pleurops
Synodontis decorus
Synodontis eupterus
Synodontis notatus
Synodontis brichardi
Synodontis nigrita
Synodontis flavitaeniata
Synodontis soloni
Liver Catfish-Heteropneustes fossilis
Black Lancer-Bagrichthys hypselopterus
PLECOS
Bristlenose-Ancistrus dolichopterus
CHARACINS
Silver dollar-Metynnis argenteus
Distichodus notospilus-Distichodus notospilus
Congo tetra-Phenacogrammus interruptus
Black-Barred Myleus-Myleus schomburgki
Filament tetra-Bryconaethiop microstoma
EELS
Peacock Eel- Macrognathus aculeatus
CICHLIDS *(see note)
Dicus-Symphysodon discus
Angelfish-Pterophyllum ssp.
Two-Spot Cichlid-Cichlasoma bimaculatum
Tilapia joka-Tilapia joka
Oscar-Astronotus ocellatus
Severum-Cichlasoma severum
Kribensis- Pelvicachromis pulcher
Sparkling Earth Eater-Satanoperca acuticeps
Blue acara-Aequidens pulchrus
Balzani's Earth Eater-Gymnogeophagus balzanii
Blood Parrot Cichlid-Hybrid no scientifc name
Blue-Eye Cichlid-Cichlasoma spilurum
Festivum-Mesonauta festivus
African Peacock Cichlid-Aulonocara nyassae
Balzani's Earth Eater-Gymnogeophagus balzanii
Bandit Cichlid-Aequidens geayi
Blockhead Cichlid-Steatocranus casuarius
Callolepis Cichlid-Cichlasoma callolepis
Freiberg's Peacock Cichlid-Aulonocara jacobfreibergi
Keyhole Cichlid-Cleithracara maronii
Port Acara-Aequidens portalegrensis
Uaru- Uaru amphicanthiodes
LABYRINTH FISHES
Ctenopoma .acutirostre-Ctenopoma .acutirostre
Ctenopoma oxyrhynchus-Ctenopoma oxyrhynchus
Ctenopoma kingsleyae-Ctenopoma kingsleyae
CYPRINIDS
Variegated Shark-Labeo variegatus
Bala Shark-Balantiocheilos melanopterus
Red-Finned Cigar Shark-Leptobarbus hoevenii
Red-linned torpedo barb-Puntius denisonii
Tinfoil Barb-Barbodes schwanefeldii
Chinese Algae Eater-Gyrinocheilus aymonieri
Clown Loach-Botia macracantha
MISC.
African mudfish-Phractolaemus ansorgei
Black Ghost Knifefish -Apteronotus albifrons
Elephantnose-Gnathonemus petersii
African butterfly-Pantondon bucholzi
African Knifefish-Xenomystus nigri
(*note :to avoid agression do not have breeding pairs )
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Below is a list of possible tankmates for the larger bichir species.This is not a full list of compatable fish but a general idea.
Note some are on both lists.As always research before buying .Based on adult maximum sizes.
Just a note an adult lower jaw bichir is capable of opening it mouth almost the diameter of its body.
Possible tankmate for P.endilcherii , P.bichir, P.congicus and P. Bichir lapradei
CHARACINS
Silver dollar - Metynnis argenteus
African pike- Hepsetus odoe
Freshwater Barracuda - Ctenolucius hujeta
Distichodus notospilus- Distichodus notospilus
Distichodus fasciolatus - Distichodus fasciolatus
Nurse tetra - Alestes nurse
African tigerfish - Hydrocynus goliath
Vampire Characin-Hydrolycus scomberoides
CICHLIDS(*see note)
Oscar - Astronotus ocellatus
Umbee- Cichlasoma umbriferum
Golden Tropheops- Pseudotropheus tropheops
Black Belt Cichlid - Cichlasoma maculicauda
Blue Flash -Thorichthys aureus
Uaru - Uaru amphicanthiodes
Carpinte Cichlid - Cichlasoma carpinte
Chrysonotus Cichlid -Copadichromis chrysonotus
Chunky Hap- Protomelas annectens
Firemouth -Cichlasoma meeki
Guenther's Cichlid- Chromidotilapia guentheri guentheri
Haitian Cichlid- Cichlasoma haitiensis
Leopold's Angelfish- Pterophyllum leopoldi
Lifalili Jewel Cichlid- Hemichromis lifalili
Livingstoni's Nimbochromis-Nimbochromis livingstonii
Malawi Blue Dolphin -Cyrtocara moorii
Nicaragua Cichlid- Hypsophrys nicaraguensis
Nkata Cichlid- Copadichromis nkatae
Pasionis Cichlid- Cichlasoma pasionis
Rainbow Cichlid- Herotilapia multispinosa
Tiger Tilapia-Tilapia mariae
CATFISH
Dusky Pimelodid -Pimelodus blochii
Crystal-Eyed Catfish- Mystus wyckii
Banded Shovelnose Catfish- Brachyplatystoma juruense
Spotted Shovelnose-Hemisorubim platyrhynchos
Giraffe Catfish-Auchenoglanis occidentalis
Dwarf giraffe Catfish-Parauchenoglanis macrostoma
DATS
widebar datnoid- Datnioides pulcher 16''
Thinbar datnoid- Datnioides undecimradiatus 16''
Indonesian datnoid-Coius microlepis 18''
PLECOS
Adonis pleco-Acanthicus adonis
Black adonis-Acanthicus hystrix
GARS
Spotted gar -Lepisosteus ocula
Tropical Gar-Atractosteus tropicus
Shortnose Gar- Lepisosteus platostomus
KNIFEFISH
Clown Knifefish-Chitala chitala
African Knifefish- Xenomystus nigri
banded knifefise-Gymnotus carapo
LABYRINTHFISH
Giant Gourami- Osphronemus goramy
EELS
Tire Track Eel-Mastacembelus armatus
Peacock Eel-Macrognathus aculeatus
FW moray-Gymnothorax polyuranodon
Freshwater Moray Eel- Echidna rhodochilus
CYPRINIDS
Bala Shark-Balantiocheilos melanopterus
Red-Finned Cigar Shark-Leptobarbus hoevenii
Tinfoil Barb-Barbodes schwanefeldii
Chinese Algae Eater- Gyrinocheilus aymonieri
Clown Loach- Botia macracantha
MISC.
Black Ghost Knifefish- Apteronotus albifrons
Elephantnose-Gnathonemus petersii
Black Devil Stingray-Potamotrygon leopoldi
Motoro Stingray-Potamotrygon motoro
(*note :to avoid agression do not have breeding pairs )
When asked "will they get along ?" Sometimes the answer is as simple as yes or no, The truth is we speak in generalities some fish in theory should be ok together some not.The long broad sweeping statements are flawed as they are generalities I think we all know generalities are just opinions , but because we are dealing with animals each with its own personality its flawed.This question is harder with predatory fish, due to their natural habits ,predation! where they naturaly feed on the smaller , the weaker and the sick, claim territory and defend it . The actual answer is we don't know it's our best guess that they should or shouldn't get along.I know one of my bichirs is highly agressive which is completely different from what i have been told, so he's in his own tank , my others all conspecifics seem fine together which is oppisite from what i have read and been told. Its a case of trial and error to some extent and depends on the individual animal. When introducing a new animal into the territory of an established animal try rearanging the tank it tends to remove reference points for territoriality but most important watch for trouble and stop it before it goes to far.
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Tankmates
Below is a partial list of possible tankmates for the small to midsized bichirs species.Parameters I used are based on size, temperment and availabilty . And i believe is a good starting point for you to do further research before purchasing -Anne
CATFISH
Dusky Pimelodid-Pimelodus blochii
Giraffe Catfish-Auchenoglanis occidentalis
Dwarf giraffe Catfish-Parauchenoglanis macrostoma
Giant Whiptail Catfish-Sturisoma aureum
Synodontis alberti
Synodontis angelicus
Synodontis pleurops
Synodontis decorus
Synodontis eupterus
Synodontis notatus
Synodontis brichardi
Synodontis nigrita
Synodontis flavitaeniata
Synodontis soloni
Liver Catfish-Heteropneustes fossilis
Black Lancer-Bagrichthys hypselopterus
PLECOS
Bristlenose-Ancistrus dolichopterus
CHARACINS
Silver dollar-Metynnis argenteus
Distichodus notospilus-Distichodus notospilus
Congo tetra-Phenacogrammus interruptus
Black-Barred Myleus-Myleus schomburgki
Filament tetra-Bryconaethiop microstoma
EELS
Peacock Eel- Macrognathus aculeatus
CICHLIDS *(see note)
Dicus-Symphysodon discus
Angelfish-Pterophyllum ssp.
Two-Spot Cichlid-Cichlasoma bimaculatum
Tilapia joka-Tilapia joka
Oscar-Astronotus ocellatus
Severum-Cichlasoma severum
Kribensis- Pelvicachromis pulcher
Sparkling Earth Eater-Satanoperca acuticeps
Blue acara-Aequidens pulchrus
Balzani's Earth Eater-Gymnogeophagus balzanii
Blood Parrot Cichlid-Hybrid no scientifc name
Blue-Eye Cichlid-Cichlasoma spilurum
Festivum-Mesonauta festivus
African Peacock Cichlid-Aulonocara nyassae
Balzani's Earth Eater-Gymnogeophagus balzanii
Bandit Cichlid-Aequidens geayi
Blockhead Cichlid-Steatocranus casuarius
Callolepis Cichlid-Cichlasoma callolepis
Freiberg's Peacock Cichlid-Aulonocara jacobfreibergi
Keyhole Cichlid-Cleithracara maronii
Port Acara-Aequidens portalegrensis
Uaru- Uaru amphicanthiodes
LABYRINTH FISHES
Ctenopoma .acutirostre-Ctenopoma .acutirostre
Ctenopoma oxyrhynchus-Ctenopoma oxyrhynchus
Ctenopoma kingsleyae-Ctenopoma kingsleyae
CYPRINIDS
Variegated Shark-Labeo variegatus
Bala Shark-Balantiocheilos melanopterus
Red-Finned Cigar Shark-Leptobarbus hoevenii
Red-linned torpedo barb-Puntius denisonii
Tinfoil Barb-Barbodes schwanefeldii
Chinese Algae Eater-Gyrinocheilus aymonieri
Clown Loach-Botia macracantha
MISC.
African mudfish-Phractolaemus ansorgei
Black Ghost Knifefish -Apteronotus albifrons
Elephantnose-Gnathonemus petersii
African butterfly-Pantondon bucholzi
African Knifefish-Xenomystus nigri
(*note :to avoid agression do not have breeding pairs )
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Below is a list of possible tankmates for the larger bichir species.This is not a full list of compatable fish but a general idea.
Note some are on both lists.As always research before buying .Based on adult maximum sizes.
Just a note an adult lower jaw bichir is capable of opening it mouth almost the diameter of its body.
Possible tankmate for P.endilcherii , P.bichir, P.congicus and P. Bichir lapradei
CHARACINS
Silver dollar - Metynnis argenteus
African pike- Hepsetus odoe
Freshwater Barracuda - Ctenolucius hujeta
Distichodus notospilus- Distichodus notospilus
Distichodus fasciolatus - Distichodus fasciolatus
Nurse tetra - Alestes nurse
African tigerfish - Hydrocynus goliath
Vampire Characin-Hydrolycus scomberoides
CICHLIDS(*see note)
Oscar - Astronotus ocellatus
Umbee- Cichlasoma umbriferum
Golden Tropheops- Pseudotropheus tropheops
Black Belt Cichlid - Cichlasoma maculicauda
Blue Flash -Thorichthys aureus
Uaru - Uaru amphicanthiodes
Carpinte Cichlid - Cichlasoma carpinte
Chrysonotus Cichlid -Copadichromis chrysonotus
Chunky Hap- Protomelas annectens
Firemouth -Cichlasoma meeki
Guenther's Cichlid- Chromidotilapia guentheri guentheri
Haitian Cichlid- Cichlasoma haitiensis
Leopold's Angelfish- Pterophyllum leopoldi
Lifalili Jewel Cichlid- Hemichromis lifalili
Livingstoni's Nimbochromis-Nimbochromis livingstonii
Malawi Blue Dolphin -Cyrtocara moorii
Nicaragua Cichlid- Hypsophrys nicaraguensis
Nkata Cichlid- Copadichromis nkatae
Pasionis Cichlid- Cichlasoma pasionis
Rainbow Cichlid- Herotilapia multispinosa
Tiger Tilapia-Tilapia mariae
CATFISH
Dusky Pimelodid -Pimelodus blochii
Crystal-Eyed Catfish- Mystus wyckii
Banded Shovelnose Catfish- Brachyplatystoma juruense
Spotted Shovelnose-Hemisorubim platyrhynchos
Giraffe Catfish-Auchenoglanis occidentalis
Dwarf giraffe Catfish-Parauchenoglanis macrostoma
DATS
widebar datnoid- Datnioides pulcher 16''
Thinbar datnoid- Datnioides undecimradiatus 16''
Indonesian datnoid-Coius microlepis 18''
PLECOS
Adonis pleco-Acanthicus adonis
Black adonis-Acanthicus hystrix
GARS
Spotted gar -Lepisosteus ocula
Tropical Gar-Atractosteus tropicus
Shortnose Gar- Lepisosteus platostomus
KNIFEFISH
Clown Knifefish-Chitala chitala
African Knifefish- Xenomystus nigri
banded knifefise-Gymnotus carapo
LABYRINTHFISH
Giant Gourami- Osphronemus goramy
EELS
Tire Track Eel-Mastacembelus armatus
Peacock Eel-Macrognathus aculeatus
FW moray-Gymnothorax polyuranodon
Freshwater Moray Eel- Echidna rhodochilus
CYPRINIDS
Bala Shark-Balantiocheilos melanopterus
Red-Finned Cigar Shark-Leptobarbus hoevenii
Tinfoil Barb-Barbodes schwanefeldii
Chinese Algae Eater- Gyrinocheilus aymonieri
Clown Loach- Botia macracantha
MISC.
Black Ghost Knifefish- Apteronotus albifrons
Elephantnose-Gnathonemus petersii
Black Devil Stingray-Potamotrygon leopoldi
Motoro Stingray-Potamotrygon motoro
(*note :to avoid agression do not have breeding pairs )
I guess i should have listed why i wanted such broad statments made. Im not new to fish, ive been keeping fish for well over 10 years. Im also not new to Polypterus, i know theyre "average" temperment. I also know every fish has its own temperment and personality and moods. I also know to research fish before i buy them. That being said im one of those people who dont mind selling fish, for example if they get to big or if i just want a change, this is the reason i said dont use tank size etc for the list, seeing how people will talk down to you or tell you to upgrade to a larger tank before ever going out one suggestion. Now to a point i do agree for those fish that get MASSIVE and fast (pacu for example) but for fish slower growing and with a smaller (yet still large) adult size i think its pointless and stupid. Also i detest people who talk down to others for some of the reason ive listed. But beblondie thank you for the list, there are some i completely disagree with for size or agression reasons but as a whole its a good list.
From my 30+ years of keeping bichirs I've arrived at a few of generalities that I always keep in mind when picking tank-mates for my Polypterids:
1) Bichirs are generally non-aggressive and often will not defend themselves vigorously against aggressive fish. Even moderately-sized cichlids can cause major difficulties for bichirs if the cichlids are 'in the mood' or are extraordinarily territorial. Interestingly, I've had success keeping bichirs with pike cichlids but had absolutely horrible luck trying to keep them with the bottom-dwelling riverine cichlids like Steatocranus or Teleogramma. Large 'sharks' (Labeo and the like) can also cause significant problems as can some of the larger barbs. Some of the more aggressive catfish species can present problems as well. I've had difficulties with North American bullheads and Asian and African species of 'Walking Catfish' (Clarias) as well (before possession of Clariids was illegal in Texas).
2) Exceptionally 'toothy' fish aren't always a real problem with bichirs. Fish that are adapted to remove pieces of other fish (like piranhas) or specialized fin/scale eaters like Phago or Ichthyborus are not good choices but I've actually kept bichirs with like-sized wolf fish (Hoplias) without any major problems. Lungfish and the Aba Aba don't make particularly good tank-fellows for bichirs either.
3) Fish that develop a taste for bichir 'slime' are not a good idea. This includes most 'pleco'-type catfish and even the occasional Synodontis catfish (though I've usually had good luck keeping many species of this genus with bichirs). Obviously, specialized 'parasitic' fish like the Candirus or lampreys aren't great tank-mates either.
4) I've never had any interest in risking my bichirs with 'strongly electric' fish like Malapterurus (the electric catfish).
4) In general...if the bichir can't eat it...and it won't eat the bichir or get violently territorial...it can be used as a bichir tank-mate.
-Joe
1) Bichirs are generally non-aggressive and often will not defend themselves vigorously against aggressive fish. Even moderately-sized cichlids can cause major difficulties for bichirs if the cichlids are 'in the mood' or are extraordinarily territorial. Interestingly, I've had success keeping bichirs with pike cichlids but had absolutely horrible luck trying to keep them with the bottom-dwelling riverine cichlids like Steatocranus or Teleogramma. Large 'sharks' (Labeo and the like) can also cause significant problems as can some of the larger barbs. Some of the more aggressive catfish species can present problems as well. I've had difficulties with North American bullheads and Asian and African species of 'Walking Catfish' (Clarias) as well (before possession of Clariids was illegal in Texas).
2) Exceptionally 'toothy' fish aren't always a real problem with bichirs. Fish that are adapted to remove pieces of other fish (like piranhas) or specialized fin/scale eaters like Phago or Ichthyborus are not good choices but I've actually kept bichirs with like-sized wolf fish (Hoplias) without any major problems. Lungfish and the Aba Aba don't make particularly good tank-fellows for bichirs either.
3) Fish that develop a taste for bichir 'slime' are not a good idea. This includes most 'pleco'-type catfish and even the occasional Synodontis catfish (though I've usually had good luck keeping many species of this genus with bichirs). Obviously, specialized 'parasitic' fish like the Candirus or lampreys aren't great tank-mates either.
4) I've never had any interest in risking my bichirs with 'strongly electric' fish like Malapterurus (the electric catfish).
4) In general...if the bichir can't eat it...and it won't eat the bichir or get violently territorial...it can be used as a bichir tank-mate.
-Joe
excellently stated preface Anne, well done! and a great list of possibilities to start with. One other thing I constantly have to remind myself of, is to always have an empty tank available when adding a new tankmate to an already established setup! So often when I have a problem fish, I move it from one tank to another, trying to find which place will cause the least amount of damage, when in reality, it just might need it's own tank! I've lost too many fish while waiting for everybody to just settle down. Compatibility takes constant monitoring!
Can they go in a 125 gal tank with various sized Frontosa? The Bicher is only a baby about 2 inches... or should i wait until it has grown more? Thanks
grmanrocks;488896; said:umm, other polypterus, nething they cant eat, and notheing that can eat them, that just about summs it up right???