Teacup Motoro ray

[j-lor]

Thinking of getting one or the othere. Will these guys be okay in a 75gal or it to small. Also how do you tell the sex of rays and is $75 a good deal on a teacup ray. Thanks for any infos

 

[abortedsoul]

Thinking of getting one or the othere. Will these guys be okay in a 75gal or it to small. Also how do you tell the sex of rays and is $75 a good deal on a teacup ray. Thanks for any infos

First let me start off- 75 gallons is not a big enough tank. In my experience, not even close. I would go 180, absolute minimum (IF it is a reticulated ray). That would house the ray for quite a while. With a 75 gallon tank, the ray would likely die of ammonia over the course of several days.

To sex the rays, look at the small fins beneath their tail at the rear of their disc where the disc and the tail meet; if there are two small organs, one on each small fin, then it is a male. If there is nothing there but the round, even fins, then it is a female.

$75 might be a good deal, depending on the pattern. I paid $75 for the female and $25 (+shipping, 50 bucks but also shipping other stuff) for the male.

By the way, the term "teacup" is often used by a LFS when they have no idea what species a ray actually is. Make sure to get a scientific name from the LFS employee, or if not there are stingray books out there that you can get to at least have some idea of what species of ray you are getting. I would suggest getting a ray from a breeder or a more professional fish store, but you can always check pictures here to figure out what species the ray is.

Some last advice- if you don't know how to cycle your tank, or don't know what a cycled tank even is, make sure to research the "nitrogen cycle" in aquariums. I might just be preaching to the choir, but rather safe than sorry.

Hope this helps!

-Matt

 

[stingray94]

First let me start off- 75 gallons is not a big enough tank. In my experience, not even close. I would go 180, absolute minimum (IF it is a reticulated ray). That would house the ray for quite a while. With a 75 gallon tank, the ray would likely die of ammonia over the course of several days.

To sex the rays, look at the small fins beneath their tail at the rear of their disc where the disc and the tail meet; if there are two small organs, one on each small fin, then it is a male. If there is nothing there but the round, even fins, then it is a female.

$75 might be a good deal, depending on the pattern. I paid $75 for the female and $25 (+shipping, 50 bucks but also shipping other stuff) for the male.

By the way, the term "teacup" is often used by a LFS when they have no idea what species a ray actually is. Make sure to get a scientific name from the LFS employee, or if not there are stingray books out there that you can get to at least have some idea of what species of ray you are getting. I would suggest getting a ray from a breeder or a more professional fish store, but you can always check pictures here to figure out what species the ray is.

Some last advice- if you don't know how to cycle your tank, or don't know what a cycled tank even is, make sure to research the "nitrogen cycle" in aquariums. I might just be preaching to the choir, but rather safe than sorry.

Hope this helps!

-Matt

Well said

I agree with what matt has said, a 75 gallon tank is such a small volume and it just can't dilute the waste that freshwater stingrays make.

 

[crystal clear exotics]

IF U OVER FILTER THE CRAP OUT OF IT. LETS JUST SAY A 36X14X12 SUMP OR A 40 BREEDER SUMP, OR 2 XP4 CANISTER ON IT U SHOULD BE OK FOR ABOUT A YEAR OR SO. I WOULD DEF. DO 2-3 TIMES A WEEK 50 PERCENT WATER CHANGES. U THEN SHOULD BE GOOD. 75 IS A LITTLE HIGH. 50 IS MORE LIKE IT. I CAN SHIP U SOME IF U LIKE. ANOTHER THING IS TEACUPS ARE VERY HARD TO GET EATING ANYTHING BUT LIVE. MOTOROS ARE FAIRLY EASY. BY THE TIME U SPEND ALL THAT MONEY ON GHOST SHRIMP AND BLACKWORMS, U MIGHT BE SAVING MONEY BY BUYING A MOTORO. HE WILL BE EATING NIGHTCRAWLERS, AND MARKET SHRIMP IN NO TIME. THEY ALSO HAVE A MUCH HIGHER SURVIVAL RATE THAN TEACUPS. JUST SO LONG AS U KNOW U WILL NEED A LARGER TANK IN THE NEAR FUTURE AND CAN AFFORD IT, GO FOR IT. YOU WILL LOVE YOUR RAYS SO MUCH BY THE TIME U NEED A BIGGER TANK YOU WILL FIND THE MONEY. TRUST ME. IF NOT U SHOULD HAVE NO PROBLEM SELLING A BIGGER RAY FOR WHAT U PAID FOR IT ON THIS FORUM. THERE ARE LOTS OF RAY HEADS AROUND HERE!!!

 

[Marius]

Preferably a 6' to start with ...the bigger, the better. No point in repeating all that Matt said

 

[abortedsoul]

IF U OVER FILTER THE CRAP OUT OF IT. LETS JUST SAY A 36X14X12 SUMP OR A 40 BREEDER SUMP, OR 2 XP4 CANISTER ON IT U SHOULD BE OK FOR ABOUT A YEAR OR SO. I WOULD DEF. DO 2-3 TIMES A WEEK 50 PERCENT WATER CHANGES. U THEN SHOULD BE GOOD. 75 IS A LITTLE HIGH. 50 IS MORE LIKE IT. I CAN SHIP U SOME IF U LIKE. ANOTHER THING IS TEACUPS ARE VERY HARD TO GET EATING ANYTHING BUT LIVE. MOTOROS ARE FAIRLY EASY. BY THE TIME U SPEND ALL THAT MONEY ON GHOST SHRIMP AND BLACKWORMS, U MIGHT BE SAVING MONEY BY BUYING A MOTORO. HE WILL BE EATING NIGHTCRAWLERS, AND MARKET SHRIMP IN NO TIME. THEY ALSO HAVE A MUCH HIGHER SURVIVAL RATE THAN TEACUPS. JUST SO LONG AS U KNOW U WILL NEED A LARGER TANK IN THE NEAR FUTURE AND CAN AFFORD IT, GO FOR IT. YOU WILL LOVE YOUR RAYS SO MUCH BY THE TIME U NEED A BIGGER TANK YOU WILL FIND THE MONEY. TRUST ME. IF NOT U SHOULD HAVE NO PROBLEM SELLING A BIGGER RAY FOR WHAT U PAID FOR IT ON THIS FORUM. THERE ARE LOTS OF RAY HEADS AROUND HERE!!!

Even if you overfilter the crap out of it, you are most likely going to end up doing 50% water changes each and every day if you want to keep the ammonia under control. The footprint of a 75 gallon tank will be boosauce for motoro rays, no matter the size. To take decent care of a motoro you need a much bigger tank; might as well get a tank big enough to house it for life.

 

[xiahaolong168]

IF U OVER FILTER THE CRAP OUT OF IT. LETS JUST SAY A 36X14X12 SUMP OR A 40 BREEDER SUMP, OR 2 XP4 CANISTER ON IT U SHOULD BE OK FOR ABOUT A YEAR OR SO. I WOULD DEF. DO 2-3 TIMES A WEEK 50 PERCENT WATER CHANGES. U THEN SHOULD BE GOOD. 75 IS A LITTLE HIGH. 50 IS MORE LIKE IT. I CAN SHIP U SOME IF U LIKE. ANOTHER THING IS TEACUPS ARE VERY HARD TO GET EATING ANYTHING BUT LIVE. MOTOROS ARE FAIRLY EASY. BY THE TIME U SPEND ALL THAT MONEY ON GHOST SHRIMP AND BLACKWORMS, U MIGHT BE SAVING MONEY BY BUYING A MOTORO. HE WILL BE EATING NIGHTCRAWLERS, AND MARKET SHRIMP IN NO TIME. THEY ALSO HAVE A MUCH HIGHER SURVIVAL RATE THAN TEACUPS. JUST SO LONG AS U KNOW U WILL NEED A LARGER TANK IN THE NEAR FUTURE AND CAN AFFORD IT, GO FOR IT. YOU WILL LOVE YOUR RAYS SO MUCH BY THE TIME U NEED A BIGGER TANK YOU WILL FIND THE MONEY. TRUST ME. IF NOT U SHOULD HAVE NO PROBLEM SELLING A BIGGER RAY FOR WHAT U PAID FOR IT ON THIS FORUM. THERE ARE LOTS OF RAY HEADS AROUND HERE!!!

I believe this can be true if it were a 125 gallon tank, not a 75...I think 75 is too small no matter what you do.