The power of consensus

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Once again, I have recently seen a thread in which the poster details something they have done which flies in the face of accepted practice...and it was done because they "read somewhere" or "saw something" that indicated it was the correct course of action. Doesn't matter who they are or what silly thing they were doing; the question is...why?

If an inexperienced...or, for that matter, an experienced...person actually does some research into a topic they will, naturally, encounter some conflicting opinions and advice. But, by and large, the majority of the info they find will be more or less in agreement as to what's happening, why it's happening, how to react, etc. The weird answers that make no sense whatsoever tend to be flukes and one-offs...so, if you want to gain knowledge, why on earth would you listen to the weirdos? When ten people say "Do this!" and one oddball says "Do that!"...who in his right mind will immediately jump to do that?

I'm sure that in many cases, the person is hoping that something they have in mind will work, and so they cast about until they find a source...any source...that reassures them that it will. That's just dumb...but I'm not really talking about that particular oddity of human behaviour. I'm talking about simple choices...left or right, black or white, up or down...where neither one nor the other is particularly more attractive or easier or less expensive than the other...and yet they still go with the outlier, the oddball, the dissenter. In the case in question here, the poster found something, somewhere, that indicated that newborn fish should be fed once every two days...took that advice to heart...and now wonders why their fish are not growing.

A dissenting opinion should not be automatically dismissed out of hand, especially if the dissenter presents sounds arguments in favour of his position. The majority is not always correct, certainly...but the odds are that they are closer to the truth than the one guy who says something completely opposite.
 
I've never been into breeding, never tried it. And I haven't even had fish which have accidently spawned, shed eggs yes, but they were eaten very quickly.

Due to my disinterest in raising young I haven't really done much, if any, research in that area of the hobby, so it's safe to say I pretty much know diddly squat about it.

But saying that, even I know that young fry need feeding very regularly, to an extent where they need to continually "graze" almost. To me, it's almost common sense.

in all fairness to the poster you are referring to, they realised that they'd got it wrong, and probably feel a little foolish right now. They're only very young too and it's good for them moving forward that this lesson has been learnt.
 
Agreed about that case; I was only using it as one example. It's not just breeding either; suitable tank sizes, acceptable water parameters, types of food, use of various equipment...the list is endless.

If lots of people say you are wrong...and one person says you are right...you are probably wrong! :)
 
Yep, u kno there are already AI bots on social media's like Twitter that's talks just like real people. U can say this then all AI bots will say you're wrong. It then can make u change your mind just cuz consensus. It's really dangerous and used to manipulate and brainwash people. It's a politically weaponolized
 
Yep, u kno there are already AI bots on social media's like Twitter that's talks just like real people. U can say this then all AI bots will say you're wrong. It then can make u change your mind just cuz consensus. It's really dangerous and used to manipulate and brainwash people. It's a politically weaponolized

Lol, I never heard of these until recently...when I called out an "aquarist" who sounded like a complete moron based upon the ridiculous info he/she was posting.

A third party politely and gently explained to me that I was likely talking to a low-grade AI; the bot didn't change my mind about the topic in question, but certainly succeeded in making me feel like an idiot for engaging in the first place. :)
 
I tend to cut noobs a little slack, because it takes time, experience (and a number of personal mistakes) to weed out good info from the BS.

What irks me most, is when someone who should know better, will attempt to take a fish that has evolved over perhaps 30 million years, in a certain environment, like the soft waters of the Amazon basin, and drop them into completely foreign water parameters, that would be great for rift lake fish,.......and then wonder what went wrong, why they now have HITH.
An example might be a fish from the first collection charts water parameters, into water parameters in the 2nd chart

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expect that the water change schedule that worked for 2" fish, is sufficient for those same fish when they are 10-12",
and they end up with HITH or some other debilitating disease.
And then say "it was OK for 2 years, then a disease just suddenly appeared out of no-where"
 
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