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necrocanis

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So it is no mystery to anyone who knows me on this site That i want to make hybrid catfish. :) i think that catfish as they are, are perfect. Im not trying to play god or improve catfish. That is impossible in my eyes. I am however intrigued by just how deep catfish can be hybridized outside of even the family level. A few decades ago this would have been thought impossible. There have been a few wonderful hybrid availible over the last 10 years that have only fueled my curiosity and passion for catfish as a whole as well as their hybrids.

So i debated while making this thread where it should be posted. Could be posted in any of 3 places. Hybrids, breeding, or catfish. I feel catfish is the most appropriate for this thread but other threads in those other sections may be spawn for lack of better terminology :)

So what is my point? Well at this stage although i am not quite ready to produce hybrids i do need to make a brood stock selection for my first try at a hybrid. I have decided that for this first hybrid i should stay small and relatively inexpensive so i can make sure the technique works for future hybrids. the species must be readily available and have a sexual maturity size of 2' or less. Thats not a max size thats sexual maturity which happens much sooner than max size. For this first attempt fish with well documented breeding are preferred. I have a few ideas in mind but wanted to see what everyone else thought. Dont go crazy with things like rtc, tsn, ect. The big boys are for later down the road. I needbto get my brood stock going as it nay take 2-4 years to raise them to maturity for an attempt. My goal is to raise 6 of 4 different small to medium sized fish for his. :)

Thanks again for your input as this will be a project i share with mfk the whole way as well.

Your humble catfish freak
Cliff

Sorry for sloppiness As i posted this from my phone im still getting use to
 
Sorry im not of more help, but very interested about this and i hope to be able to stay posted. But i know i would like to see somethin with good color mixed with a sailfin marbled cat (Leiarius pictus)


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This is a species i hope to use in the future but there is no breeding history so it is not a viable candidate for this project. :) i will definitely keep mfk updated so stay tuned. Thanks for your input.

Sorry im not of more help, but very interested about this and i hope to be able to stay posted. But i know i would like to see somethin with good color mixed with a sailfin marbled cat (Leiarius pictus)


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Maybe try hybridizing within the Ictaluridae family, Bullhead x Channel Cat as an example. They're easy to come by and should work.
 
subbed! if you browse other threads right now there's a guy who has a JD with yellow lips on it. It's somehow a color morph and I just wanna see how it goes for you and your catfish, btw, are you going to the the hormones stuff or let it go as when they do the natural humping/banging?
 
GAH! I wish this is one of those threads I discovered after 6 months and I have 10 pages of information to leaf through! Ah well, subscribed, and I can't wait to see the project unfold.
 
oh man this is awesome! subbed!
 
I think in my mind i realized already that i shiuld probably just use bukkheads. :) at least for the first species. As for the second one i want some more exotic. Maybe a raphael? Somthing else that stays smaller. syno of some sort? I think i know what i want to do with the big ones but there are so many options with smaller ones. I like the idea of a channel/bullhead hybrid but the morphology and relationship of the species is closer than what i hope to achieve. :) how bout bullhead x :chaca? Lol or bullhead x something medium asian catfish.
Maybe try hybridizing within the Ictaluridae family, Bullhead x Channel Cat as an example. They're easy to come by and should work.
 
These arent cichilds they wont reproduce naturally. Catfish need help to hybridize. I really have no choice but to use hormones. Some of the bullheads and channels can be brought to maturity easy enoufh without hormones but pimelodids and other families are more difficult. So yeah will use hormones as a tool. Trying to figure out the least harmful methods possible for saving the brood stock as i dont like the idea of killing them for their sperm and eggs but in reality there may be no Other option especially with males.
subbed! if you browse other threads right now there's a guy who has a JD with yellow lips on it. It's somehow a color morph and I just wanna see how it goes for you and your catfish, btw, are you going to the the hormones stuff or let it go as when they do the natural humping/banging?
 
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