He was doing great fattened up but then my fiance did a quaternary water change Sunday night when I was sick and cleaned my original filter I added a canister filter a week ago to the tank but I don't think it was on the tank long enough to compensate for cleaning out the original filter on Sunday night I came home Monday to death curl starting he was a bit red under his disc so I assumed an among a spike the amino wasn't spiked at that time but the nitrites were so I think my fiance trying to be helpful unknowingly cleaned away all my beneficial bacteria in my filter causing am amonIA and nitrite spike and now I'm trying not to be ****ty and point these things out because he was just being helpful because Sundays are the days I do my tank matNance and I was sick #ripstewie
The ray I rescued
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That sucks. I had my mom watching my rays while i was away and she dropped 1 cup of pellets in the water and left it for 2 days thinking they would just eventually eat them. hard not to be mad at someone who just doesn't know
He feels terrible enough as he put it " it's like I let my dog out and I didn't chain it up and it got hit by a car" apparently he didn't realize their not "just fish" until now
sorry about the loss.
I know rays are more sensitive to conditions than other fish, but I feel like cleaning one filter shouldn't cause a spike like that...I clean all my filters once a month in regular ol' tap water lol is there a sump on this tank or anything? I'm just trying to maybe help mitigate a problem like this in the future, not trying to be mean. For a spike to occur that fast the tank must be underfiltered, especially for rays.
I know rays are more sensitive to conditions than other fish, but I feel like cleaning one filter shouldn't cause a spike like that...I clean all my filters once a month in regular ol' tap water lol is there a sump on this tank or anything? I'm just trying to maybe help mitigate a problem like this in the future, not trying to be mean. For a spike to occur that fast the tank must be underfiltered, especially for rays.
I'm not sure the tank is over filtered but the second filter may not have had enough biofiltration built up yet it has a bio wheel rated for a 90 gallon and a cannister rated for over 100 gal on a 75 gal tank the ray was only about 6-7 inches there is a small tiger shovel nose in the tank and a baby puffer no bites on the stingray like he was getting picked on I was supposed to pick up a 180 in January to move him into I missed the amonIA on the test kit but his disc was pink on the bottom the night before he died and I saw the nitrite spike that night too.. the only other thing in the tank is a plant
well the tank itself wasn't underfiltered, but the size of the tank combined with the fish in it definitely had a lot to do with it. We all live and learn in this hobby for sure. Rays and catfish are two of the messiest fish you can keep in a box full of water lol, that combined with just enough space for the beneficial bacteria to colonize on, I can see being the deciding factor there. The pink would indicate ammo or nitrite poisoning as you said.
what type of ray was it?
He was a motoro that I revived from a pet store I didn't really plan on getting him and I think potentially had he been the only fish in the tank he would have been fine he fattened up nicely doubled in thickness in two weeks and almost trippeled by tge 3rd
My other question is my tap water pH runs around 7.8 and he didn't seem to have a problem with that is ammonia more toxic at higher pH
yes he may have been ok for a while even with the filter cleaning. They grow somewhat quickly I believe though, even that planned 180 would have been too small sooner rather than later.