theory about jardinis

[wizzin]

All these discussions about a jardini comm made me think about something. I know that some jars are wild caught, but a lot come from farms in Indonesia. Could it be the fish that are born in captivity with all their bros and sis's and brought up to 4"-6" in groups would be more tolerant of tankmates?

Anyone know the origins of their little bugga? I really wish there was more documentation on the fish. I know for the price the farms don't want to waste time, but even a note from the retailer on whether the fish you are buying is wild caught or captive bred, and then what farm did it come from. Maybe we'd find that most jars coming from one particular farm in one area are fine with tankmates. Maybe it's due to that specific farm's conditions or practices.

Just a thought.

 

[MHcblues119]

u could be right

my lfs has a 6-8 inch jardini and i am going to go buy it for a 55g growout

he is kept with tetras and they havent lost one yet but he is a very slow swimmer and has been in the store for about a year now

 

[wizzin]

I should note too, that a retailer revealing the farm name could do them no harm, since most farms wont sell to the general public. I guess they'd be giving up their source to the competition, but at the retail store level (not online stores), it would take a covert op to find out the source form your competitor.

 

[DeLgAdO]

All these discussions about a jardini comm made me think about something. I know that some jars are wild caught, but a lot come from farms in Indonesia. Could it be the fish that are born in captivity with all their bros and sis's and brought up to 4"-6" in groups would be more tolerant of tankmates?

Anyone know the origins of their little bugga? I really wish there was more documentation on the fish. I know for the price the farms don't want to waste time, but even a note from the retailer on whether the fish you are buying is wild caught or captive bred, and then what farm did it come from. Maybe we'd find that most jars coming from one particular farm in one area are fine with tankmates. Maybe it's due to that specific farm's conditions or practices.

Just a thought.

i really dont see a corilation between the practices of each farm and the fishes behavior.


besides that a fish as species can have a nasty disposition, but when it come down to the individual they may not live up to there species disposition, for reasons unknown, then again maybe there is no reason.

im certain that every fish farm has a mix of fish with some that are straight up *******s and your mix anything you want kinda jardini. It might just all come down to the individual.

 

[wizzin]

i really dont see a corilation between captive and wild caught fishes behavior.

i would think that most jars would be captive bred since australia has a ban on exporting any kind of animal outside the country, thats why all cockatiels and bugdies are 100% captive bred (the example is that they are natives from austalia), so i dont see any possiblily in knowing if a jardini is wild caught if it is wild caught at all.

besides that a fish as species can have a nasty disposition, but when it come down to the individual they may not live up to there species disposition.

correlation between captive bred and wild caught? That was the question/point. I think you mean: "I really don't see the difference between captive bred behavior and wild caught behavior."

When did Australia ban exporting animals? I was just talking to an exporter there last month. He didn't mention anything about it, and it was a deal on about 80 fish.

So you're saying that a wild fish exhibits no difference in behavior over a captive bred one? Is that documented science or just a theory? I understand that a single specimen may exhibit different behavior than the species as a whole, and that may be attributed to that particular specimen's disposition. I was just questioning whether it might be more than that, or that it could be the result of breeding conditions vs "a fluke". If you know of a study where this was researched, please send it my way.

Hey, quit editing your text! LOL!!!

http://www.answers.com/correlation&r=67

usually you refer to the correlation of two items to identify their similarities, or parallels.

 

[DeLgAdO]

When did Australia ban exporting animals? I was just talking to an exporter there last month. He didn't mention anything about it, and it was a deal on about 80 fish.
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its wild animals

correlation between captive bred and wild caught? That was the question/point. I think you mean: "I really don't see the difference between captive bred behavior and wild caught behavior."

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YEA!

you know how bad i am at putting my thoughts into writing, LOL.

 

[wizzin]

ahh. wild animals. Hmmm. didn't know that. Well, I guess that shoots the wild caught vs captive bred jardini theory. LOL.

Still, the thought of different farms creating different behaviors is interesting. It's the whole nature vs nurture thing I guess. Of course, maybe it is just a fluke that some individuals are more "tame" than others.

Just a thought...

 

[MistirE]

Interesting, how about farms that feed pellet or non-live type foods vs one that feeds live feeders, etc. only a thought......not sure about what the farms do just an agression factor contributed by live foods that I am aware of.