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Jory

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"THE KING KONG PURPLE PARROT FISH MAY BE THE MOST FAMOUS FISH THAT NO ONE KNOWS ANYTHING ABOUT. THE PARROT IS NOT A MIXED BREED BETWEEN A RED DEVIL AND A GOLDSEVERUM! EVEN AFTER BEING TOLD THIS FACT, MANY HOBBYISTS HAVE TRIED THIS MIX ANYWAY AND HAVE NOT GOT ANYTHING EVEN CLOSE TO THE PARROT. XI ENG OF TAIWAN WAS THE ORIGINATOR OF THIS FISH COMMERCIALLY, AND HAS STATED AGAIN AND AGAIN THAT IT IS A CITRINELLUM "SPORT", NOT A MIX IN ANY WAY. THAT BEING SAID, THE PARROT IS STILL A "MAN MADE" FISH, SELECTIVELY BREED TO ITS DISTINCT SHAPE AND COLORS.
THIS BRINGS US TO THE NEXT BIT OF MISINFORMATION: COLORS. THE PARROT COMES IN DEEP RED (TRADE NAME "PURPLE"), DARK ORANGE (TRADE NAME "BLOOD") , ORANGE, YELLOW, BROWN, ALBINO AND MIXES OF THESE COLORS. THE "BUBBLEGUM" AND "JELLY BEAN" ARE FAKES, CHEMICALLY STRIPPED OF THEIR SLIME COATS AND TATTOOED WITH COLOR. THE FAKE ONES FADE IN COLOR QUICKLY AS THE FISH GROWS.
THE FISH COMES IN 3 MAIN BODY TYPES: THE PARROT (THE MOST COMMON), THE KING KONG (EXTRA LUMPY AND HUMPY) AND THE PURPLE HEART (MISSING TAIL). SOMETIMES THE LOWER JAW OF THIS FISH DOES NOT MOVE AT ALL. THIS IS NOT CONSIDERED A DEFECT PER SE, JUST ANOTHER ANOMALY IN AN ALREADY ODD FISH. PARROTS GROW TO ABOUT 8-9 INCHES IN LENGTH.
SEXING PARROTS IS AS EASY AS LOOKING AT THE BOTTOM OF THE FISH, JUST BEFORE THE ANAL FIN. MALES HAVE A WHITE "SPIKE" STICKING OUT, FEMALES HAVE A FLAT BOTTOMED TUBE, LIKE A TINY SODA STRAW. BREEDING IS ANOTHER STORY ALTOGETHER, AS MOST FISH IN THE TRADE HAVE BEEN CHEMICALLY STERILIZED, TO KEEP THEM FROM REPRODUCING. SOME HAVE EVIDENTLY ESCAPED THIS FATE, AS A FEW SPAWNINGS HAVE INDEED BEEN RECORDED. FRY ARE BROWN UNTIL ABOUT 2 INCHES IN SIZE, THEN START TO COLOR UP. OUT OF EACH SPAWN, MAYBE 15 GROW UP WITH THE COLOR INTENSITY OF THE PARENTS, THE REST APPEAR TO BE ORANGE OR MOLTED BROWN/YELLOW. THIS IS MOST LIKELY THE REASON FOR THE RELATIVE HIGH COST OF THE PARROT; LOW YIELDS OF THE PRIME SPECIMENS (MUCH LIKE GOOD KOI). THIS IS ALSO THE REASON THAT THE JELLY BEAN VARIETY ARE LESS EXPENSIVE THAT THE PURPLE PARROTS; PAINTING THE POOR QUALITY ONES IS AN EASY WAY TO PROFIT FROM CULLS.
GOOD TANKMATES FOR THE PARROTS REALLY DEPEND ON THE PERSONALITY OF THE INDIVIDUAL FISH. MANY PEOPLE HAVE GOOD LUCK KEEPING THEM WITH LARGE ANGELS AND BARBS. OTHERS HAVE REPORTED THEY HAVE KEPT THEM WITH OSCARS AND SEVERUM. EVEN THOUGH THEY COME FROM CITRINELLUM ORIGINS, THEIR DEFORMED BODIES AND SOMETIMES INOPERABLE MOUTHS, REALLY CUT DOWN ON THEIR TERRITORIAL HOLDINGS.
FINALLY WE HAVE TO ADDRESS THE QUESTION OF THE "ETHICS" OF OWNING A PARROT FISH. BACK IN THE 1980'S, MANY IN THE HOBBY HOWLED IN PROTEST WHEN THIS FISH WAS INTRODUCED. "HOW COULD ONE IN GOOD CONSCIENCE OWN A PURPOSELY DEFORMED FISH?" THEY ASKED. THE SAME WOULD HAVE TO BE ASKED ABOUT ANYONE OWNING A CANINE BULLDOG. THESE WERE CHOSEN FOR THEIR DEFORMED, SMASHED IN FACES (THEY HARDLY HAVE ANY BITING POWER AT ALL, BELIEVE ME, ONE OF THESE DOGS HAS NEVER BROUGHT DOWN A 1500LB BULL!). OR THE MODERN COLLIE; THE EMPHASIS ON A LONG SNOUT HAS RESULTED IN A DOG WITH TERRIBLE EYESIGHT. IN THE DEFENSE OF THE PARROT, MANY HAVE LIVED A HAPPY 10 YEARS OR MORE (LONGER THAN MANY BULLDOGS), SO ILL LEAVE THE QUESTION OF ETHICS TO THE PERSPECTIVE OWNERS."

all writing in quotations(although i lowered the font size) sited from:
http://cichlidworld.net/king_kong_purple_parrot.htm

i know it is a lot to read, but i think it is well worth it to hear this point of view.​

:popcorn:
 
its not a mix between a severum and red devil. its a mix between a midas and a synspilum
 
Jory;2881689; said:
"THE KING KONG PURPLE PARROT FISH MAY BE THE MOST FAMOUS FISH THAT NO ONE KNOWS ANYTHING ABOUT. THE PARROT IS NOT A MIXED BREED BETWEEN A RED DEVIL AND A GOLDSEVERUM! EVEN AFTER BEING TOLD THIS FACT, MANY HOBBYISTS HAVE TRIED THIS MIX ANYWAY AND HAVE NOT GOT ANYTHING EVEN CLOSE TO THE PARROT. XI ENG OF TAIWAN WAS THE ORIGINATOR OF THIS FISH COMMERCIALLY, AND HAS STATED AGAIN AND AGAIN THAT IT IS A CITRINELLUM "SPORT", NOT A MIX IN ANY WAY. THAT BEING SAID, THE PARROT IS STILL A "MAN MADE" FISH, SELECTIVELY BREED TO ITS DISTINCT SHAPE AND COLORS.
THIS BRINGS US TO THE NEXT BIT OF MISINFORMATION: COLORS. THE PARROT COMES IN DEEP RED (TRADE NAME "PURPLE"), DARK ORANGE (TRADE NAME "BLOOD") , ORANGE, YELLOW, BROWN, ALBINO AND MIXES OF THESE COLORS. THE "BUBBLEGUM" AND "JELLY BEAN" ARE FAKES, CHEMICALLY STRIPPED OF THEIR SLIME COATS AND TATTOOED WITH COLOR. THE FAKE ONES FADE IN COLOR QUICKLY AS THE FISH GROWS.
THE FISH COMES IN 3 MAIN BODY TYPES: THE PARROT (THE MOST COMMON), THE KING KONG (EXTRA LUMPY AND HUMPY) AND THE PURPLE HEART (MISSING TAIL). SOMETIMES THE LOWER JAW OF THIS FISH DOES NOT MOVE AT ALL. THIS IS NOT CONSIDERED A DEFECT PER SE, JUST ANOTHER ANOMALY IN AN ALREADY ODD FISH. PARROTS GROW TO ABOUT 8-9 INCHES IN LENGTH.
SEXING PARROTS IS AS EASY AS LOOKING AT THE BOTTOM OF THE FISH, JUST BEFORE THE ANAL FIN. MALES HAVE A WHITE "SPIKE" STICKING OUT, FEMALES HAVE A FLAT BOTTOMED TUBE, LIKE A TINY SODA STRAW. BREEDING IS ANOTHER STORY ALTOGETHER, AS MOST FISH IN THE TRADE HAVE BEEN CHEMICALLY STERILIZED, TO KEEP THEM FROM REPRODUCING. SOME HAVE EVIDENTLY ESCAPED THIS FATE, AS A FEW SPAWNINGS HAVE INDEED BEEN RECORDED. FRY ARE BROWN UNTIL ABOUT 2 INCHES IN SIZE, THEN START TO COLOR UP. OUT OF EACH SPAWN, MAYBE 15 GROW UP WITH THE COLOR INTENSITY OF THE PARENTS, THE REST APPEAR TO BE ORANGE OR MOLTED BROWN/YELLOW. THIS IS MOST LIKELY THE REASON FOR THE RELATIVE HIGH COST OF THE PARROT; LOW YIELDS OF THE PRIME SPECIMENS (MUCH LIKE GOOD KOI). THIS IS ALSO THE REASON THAT THE JELLY BEAN VARIETY ARE LESS EXPENSIVE THAT THE PURPLE PARROTS; PAINTING THE POOR QUALITY ONES IS AN EASY WAY TO PROFIT FROM CULLS.
GOOD TANKMATES FOR THE PARROTS REALLY DEPEND ON THE PERSONALITY OF THE INDIVIDUAL FISH. MANY PEOPLE HAVE GOOD LUCK KEEPING THEM WITH LARGE ANGELS AND BARBS. OTHERS HAVE REPORTED THEY HAVE KEPT THEM WITH OSCARS AND SEVERUM. EVEN THOUGH THEY COME FROM CITRINELLUM ORIGINS, THEIR DEFORMED BODIES AND SOMETIMES INOPERABLE MOUTHS, REALLY CUT DOWN ON THEIR TERRITORIAL HOLDINGS.
FINALLY WE HAVE TO ADDRESS THE QUESTION OF THE "ETHICS" OF OWNING A PARROT FISH. BACK IN THE 1980'S, MANY IN THE HOBBY HOWLED IN PROTEST WHEN THIS FISH WAS INTRODUCED. "HOW COULD ONE IN GOOD CONSCIENCE OWN A PURPOSELY DEFORMED FISH?" THEY ASKED. THE SAME WOULD HAVE TO BE ASKED ABOUT ANYONE OWNING A CANINE BULLDOG. THESE WERE CHOSEN FOR THEIR DEFORMED, SMASHED IN FACES (THEY HARDLY HAVE ANY BITING POWER AT ALL, BELIEVE ME, ONE OF THESE DOGS HAS NEVER BROUGHT DOWN A 1500LB BULL!). OR THE MODERN COLLIE; THE EMPHASIS ON A LONG SNOUT HAS RESULTED IN A DOG WITH TERRIBLE EYESIGHT. IN THE DEFENSE OF THE PARROT, MANY HAVE LIVED A HAPPY 10 YEARS OR MORE (LONGER THAN MANY BULLDOGS), SO ILL LEAVE THE QUESTION OF ETHICS TO THE PERSPECTIVE OWNERS."

all writing in quotations(although i lowered the font size) sited from:
http://cichlidworld.net/king_kong_purple_parrot.htm

i know it is a lot to read, but i think it is well worth it to hear this point of view.​

:popcorn:

i have actually been in that store on a few occasions. a really dark and "mistierious" place. i found some really awesome stuff in there. some so rare i've never seen anywhere else. BUT i have to say these people must update there linage story on parrots.

first things first. parrots are NOT pure species.

from what i know they also do not come from severums. i've heard of many people trying this cross on a larger then a single pair in the past.

it is also well known that the tailess ones are not born that way...

so we see that this is old school sale gimics us hybrid lovers have been fed from the beginning on linages of the fish we love. this isn't exactly bad that this fellow store owner/hobbiest has this info on his page. it's prolly exactly what he was told to get him to purchase parrots for his "RARE" Pure cichlid store. because it's how things has worked untill only recently. he just needs to update the story.

however the cross has been known for some time now that parrots are the result of synspilum X midas/devil. the result we see in the parrots is because a certain gene contained within some syns. not all syns carry this gene, and therefor cannot produce parrots.

everyone knows that the males are very unlikely to reproduce. not all are sterile but a vast majority unfortunately are. this includes all breeds of parrots.

great find Jory!!

fascinating topic to explore. :D
 
I have a friend that bought some "blue" parrots and after they started getting a little larger they changed color to a dull orange. He thinks the color blue will come back. I've tried to explain that the fish was "tampered" with but alas.
 
If it means anything, the people at cichlid world know a lot about fish. They're just a bunch of old time hobbyists. The store is pretty dark/creepy but every time you go in there their stock is healthy and they carry fish you'd never find anywhere else. Last time I was in there I bought some austroloheros "red ceibal."

The whole parrot talk is just their opinion. I know there are dozens of combinations out there that make different types of parrots. Fry all turn out so much different. I have some of vittlekings parrot X synspilum fry and 3 of them look like purebred synspilums and the other looks like a faded KKP.
 
cool you got some faders then Cam?? I have about 6-7 faders right now. One is orange and white, kinda cool looking. They should be coloring up pretty good by now????
 
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