thinking about goin salt

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ozpkchris

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i have a 20 gal empty tank just sitting around an i was thinking of trying salt
i also have an ac 110 that i could use on it

i consider myself an experienced fish keep when it comes to fresh water
but i have never tried salt

so any suggestion would be welcome as well as any suggested readings

i dont know what i plan to stock as i have no knowledge of salt water
lr or coral of fish w/ live rock and coral i have no clue

so help me out guys
 
ozpkchris;3291791; said:
i have a 20 gal empty tank just sitting around an i was thinking of trying salt
i also have an ac 110 that i could use on it

i consider myself an experienced fish keep when it comes to fresh water
but i have never tried salt

so any suggestion would be welcome as well as any suggested readings

i dont know what i plan to stock as i have no knowledge of salt water
lr or coral of fish w/ live rock and coral i have no clue

so help me out guys

Well first of I welcome you to the world of saltwater keeping as far as a good read. I would suggest buying this book asap best $16.00 you'll spend I still to this day reference this book it will break down everything you'll want to know and need to know about the hobby of saltwater fish keeping.

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P.S. I would go with the biggest tank you can afford to do but first read the book so you can get a general idea of the equipment and price range you want to stay in then consider your tank size option's and most of all have fun with the experience.
 
you'll need a protien skimmer, refractometer, as well as test kits for ammonia, nitrites, nitrates, calcium pH and DkH. Are you going for fish only with live rock or a reef tank or what. I would suggest a larger tank as with salt the smaller ones tend to be more frustrating. You will need considerable more flow than a freshwater tank. Remeber that for salt tanks the ratio is 3-4 gallons per inch of fish instead of the normal 1 to 1. If I think of more i'll let you know
 
i say do it. you only live once you may as well enjoy yourself :) it can be a lot to take in, but deffo worth it. i should know, i was in your position 18 months ago...

basically setting up a sw aquarium can be as simple as adding salt to your water and leaving it to cycle. most people will recomend the use of live rock in marine aquaria, and i agree. it does help filter your tank. it also looks cool... getting the biggest tank you can afford is a good idea, but money doesnt grow on trees, and we have to use what we can. i started on a 10 gal, it can be a PITA but just keep an eye on it you'll be fine.

if you go down the live rock route, you will want 1-2 lbs per gallon. i suggest you do, as you can always get rid of it if you dont like it, but adding LR to an established aquarium will cause it to go into another cycle, unless that is its you get fully cured LR... but ist easier to get it out of the way first and be done with it.

you'll need some things to start.
*hydrometer/refractometer
*1-2 lbs of Live Rock per gallon
*sand, enough to cover 2". i have my sand 4"+ at the back so it slopes to the front. wash it first. you can get live sand, dont wash this though
*Hob filter rated to around 200 GPH
*powerheads
*heater
*Marine salt
*tester kit
*prawns

get your hydrometer/refractometer, mix up some salt water ( around 1.023sg) and half fill the tank, so when your in the tank rearranging the rockwork it doesnt overflow... then get your hob filter rated for around 10x tank volume (approx 200 GPH), heater, and a few powerheads for extra flow, and place them in the tank, now add the sand around the rockwork. i use playsand, i have no problems with it. its cheap too... so its all good.

this way any burrowing animals wont cause your rockwork to collapse as they dig. top off the tank with some more salt water, and turn everything on. you want to aim the powerheads so they dont leave any spots trapping debris. so you'll have to tweak their position.

once the tank is running, i.e. everything is in, add a few cooked prawns to kick off the cycle, basically leave for a week, then start to monitor the params, in about 10-12 days you should be good to go.

you can have a protein skimmer too, but its not an essential item. i had my tank running without a skimmer for about a year with no problems. the only reason i use one now is because i was given one a few days ago for free. its only in my tank as i have a lion fish (huge bioload), so it just removes most of its mess. if i didnt have the skimmer i would just do more water changes. so its your call if you want one.

id also look up fishless cycleing, and drip acclimatisation on google. for lighting id decide what type of tank you want first. if you want corals check out the corals and inverts section of MFK, theres loads of info in the stickies at the top of the page. also search for begginers marine fish. avoid damsels if possible, theyre basically cichlids of SW. add them last to the tank if you want them. also avoid mandarin gobies, they need loads of live food, a 20gal isnt going to produce enough critters for it and you'll have to buy them, which will be expensive in the long run.

welcome to heaven my friend, also welcome to hell when something goes wrong or dies... but when it hits the fan, thats where the forum comes in handy... :)

if you have any questions just ask. someone will be able to help.
 
thanks for all the info, im gonna do alot of reading before it get started

i want to stay with the 20 cause i already have my hands full with the 180 fresh, but i also want to add something new into my fish keeping

i ll probably go to try and stay cheep to start off with i already have sand
an ac 110, some power heads, a light, and the refractometer of what ever its called
so ill pick up a heater and some more sand

so far i think ill go with some small fish and lr i dont know if i get 20 lbs of live rock maybe ten or so
i love the look of coral but i want to get my feet wet before i throw money into something i dont know enough about
 
One thing often over looked is the price of marine salt, it's not as cheap as you think. You don't NEED a protein skimmer or a refractometer. Get a hydrometer (much cheaper) You will need proper substrate as well. Good luck
 
For substrate, regular play sand or high desert sand gives the tank a good look.

As far as purchasing a water testing kit, I find it's a waste of money. If you have a decent LFS in the area they should be able to test your water for you at no cost.

As far as salinity. 1.023 is what you would want if you plan on going reef, but reasonably, you could go as low as 1.016-17 if its FOWLR.

If you're going to go with reef at some point, you may want to look into power compacts, or metal halides.
 
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