Thought you should see this PM...

[BDawg364]

This came from a blog entitled Find a new hobby by foxypleco

anybody who owns a man made fish is not helping anybody.aquarists should help preserve fish...anybody who gets a hybrid,a fish that cant be bred in captivity,or that just doesnt at least try to breed their fish gives other aquarists a bad name.they need to find a new hobby.go ahead and walk out that lfs with a blood parrot cichlid.i spit on the ground you walk on.

This is my comment which lead to the pm....

Great advice. If you are maxed out on tank space, too bad. Everyone should breed their fish because this guy says so. What ever you do, don't sleep with an open-minded person, your kid might be a hybrid...

This is the PM I got from foxypleco, the new MFK member...

Dont worry about my wife and kids

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yes and if i did have hybrid kids than there would be a great chance that they would come out severly deformed right?afterwards ill dip them in a chemical that destroys their pigment so i can tatto them up real prudy,as i never did like how babies look naturaly.maybe if we try hard enough we can keep breeding till we get a real strange looking baby,like one with a horn or a mouth that cant close all the way.i think youve got something here,i need to start hybriding so i can make a real strange looking person.....of course not,thats ridiculous,right?so are you,where do you draw the line?

dont wory ,ive already expressed to my wife and children the many reasons hybrids just arent right.....


This is how I calmly responded....

Wow man, way to take a joke personally. This is a fish website to talk about and learn more about fish, not to judge people. The only reason I came back at you for what you said is you said you sipt on the ground hybrid owners walk on. You're making judgements about people because of what fish they like. Some people like hybrids, some don't. Some people like fish, other people like dogs. Everyone has their own opinion and is entitled to it. I don't think it is right for you to call someone a disgrace of a person just because they like a fish that has been mixed with a different species. I'm sorry if I offended you, but you really might want to consider lightening up a bit. It really isn't good for you.

Enjoy your pure-bred fish,
Brian

 

[scottv]

It's all good with hybrids...as long as they don't go releasing flowerhorn into local waters to outcompete native fish. That is a crime.


That person can go ahead and spit on the ground I walk on all he wants after I buy a flowerhorn......he just has to deal with the store owner...not my store.... Ima just go home and take care of my fish.



Now that I think about it more....the flowerhorn industry is getting kinda scary....some of those breeder's creations look freaky!. They don't look like pretty trimacs anymore.

 

[Filthy Sanchez]

I have mixed feelings about hybrids, but I wouldn't be deeply offended if someone had a different view than myself. I don't think hybrids should be released into the wild, hell no pets that aren't native should be look at the mess that is South Florida, and many parts of Oz. I was talking to someone from South Florida and he said everyday you could see at least one flock of introduced parrots, or go fishing for Tilapia, or Peacock Bass. That there are breeding populations of pythons, caiman, monitors and countless other reptiles. A guy from Alaska overheard the conversation and said where he lived they could catch Atlantic salmon in the rivers, because enough escaped fish farms to establish breeding populations. Now imagine that only with hybrids of creatures made by man. Yet if kept in the hobby responsibly I'd feel it was OK. Sometimes hybrids happen in nature as with spotted lions, even on rare occasions a new species is established. So too each their own, there's no reason to get upset because someone feels different than you, on such a topic.

 

[I3u11he4d]

thier are no mistakes,only happy accidents - Bob Ross. unless you breeding to the point of deformities and abnormalities that compermise health or livelyhood.The thing with hybridisation is the man crossbreeds for looks only,to make them look appealing to us.This goes against what evolution had intended to a point,what I meean is that evolutionary abnormalities only work if they benifit the creature not if it hinders it.Thats why you dont normally see albinos in the wild.In most instances crossbreeding by man ends up like the goldfish,Slow,cute and munerous health problems.My point,it like anything else can be taken to far.

 

[I3u11he4d]

I have mixed feelings about hybrids, but I wouldn't be deeply offended if someone had a different view than myself. I don't think hybrids should be released into the wild, hell no pets that aren't native should be look at the mess that is South Florida, and many parts of Oz. I was talking to someone from South Florida and he said everyday you could see at least one flock of introduced parrots, or go fishing for Tilapia, or Peacock Bass. That there are breeding populations of pythons, caiman, monitors and countless other reptiles. A guy from Alaska overheard the conversation and said where he lived they could catch Atlantic salmon in the rivers, because enough escaped fish farms to establish breeding populations. Now imagine that only with hybrids of creatures made by man. Yet if kept in the hobby responsibly I'd feel it was OK. Sometimes hybrids happen in nature as with spotted lions, even on rare occasions a new species is established. So too each their own, there's no reason to get upset because someone feels different than you, on such a topic.

 

[Princley]

any LIFE that breaths as the right to B...........

 

[Princley]

any whats a Fox pleco a NEW BREED?

of just a name some of the USA gave it?

 

[slammer]

2 things struck me as I read the same post in the Hybrid forum...

1st. The sheer animosity that this person showed against folks that he does'nt even know.

2nd. His argument against hybrids is silly. He concentrates on the infertility issue...he does'nt even touch on the semi-legit but farfetched complaint against hybrids. The only issue with hybrids is that they could pollute the gene pool of the parent species. But that could only happen if they were viable and if they were released into the wild or back to a breeder...He never even mentioned that. We all know that the odds of someone raising a bunch of fertile Horns or Parrots and then trekking back to where the root species reside is ludicrous...

It is my opinion that this person is either very new to the hobby, very young, or very ignorant. In other words he sounds like an uninformed crusader looking for a cause. I hope we can educate him before he get's booted or up and leaves on his own...

Slam

 

[Princley]

neither fish here is a hybred but one cost about 80 the other 25. many stores lie one just what they sell Foxy should go back to comets




oh just had to ask the latin name on both 1st pic frist

 

[BDawg364]

I totally agree. The only reason I had any sort of problem was the hostile attitude this guy has. He is entitled to his own opinion, I believe that 100%, but I made a joke and came back at him because he so easily condemned everyone who has hybrids and that isn't right. I posetd this so that I could have some outside feedback on the situation.