Tidepool wet/dry filter?

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joeytoe

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Ok heres the deal I recently got a Tidepool 1 wet/dry. Im not sure if its still getting seeded (had it on the tank for acouple weeks with two AC110s). an all of a sudden my tank has gone a bit murky.

Im kinda thinking bout ditching the BIO-wheel in it an modifiying it so I can put pot scrubbers in instead.

Just curious if anyone else has had trouble with these filters?
 
Potts050;533890; said:
Why ditch the bio wheel?
They work great. They're little wet dry filters unto themselves.

Well Im not sure if im going to yet, it just seems like it causing my tank to go murky. It was crystal clear before.
 
Potts050;533923; said:
Its not the bio wheel doing that. If anything, its your best allie in clearing it up.
How long has the tank been set up?
How many fish?
Are you over feeding?

tanks been setup for well over a year.
only 6 fish
feeding 5 of them once a day an the 6th ever other day.
tank was crystal when I had a fluval 403 3/4 full of of lava rock an two AC110s.

Im trying to cut my electric bill a bit an figured since my DIY wet/dry keeps my 75 crystal that a wet/dry an AC110 would do the same for my 120.
 
You may not have enough mechanical filtration with the reduction of one AC and taking out the cannister. Is it possible that there are places in your tank where detritus has gathered out of site and is starting to rot?

Its too bad you couldnt have hooked up the wet dry and let it mature while you still ran the other filters. What are those filters doing now?
 
Potts050;533938; said:
You may not have enough mechanical filtration with the reduction of one AC and taking out the cannister. Is it possible that there are places in your tank where detritus has gathered out of site and is starting to rot?

Its too bad you couldnt have hooked up the wet dry and let it mature while you still ran the other filters. What are those filters doing now?

the ac110s are still on it, I was waiting for the tidepool to get seeded before I removed the second ac110.

there should be enough mechanical filtration, I mean the tidepool alone has the prefilter (on the sos overflow) an the three chambers before the bio-wheel with corse, fine an carbon pads. Plus what in the ac110s.

I dont think theres anything rotting in there.

Maybe its time for new foam in the AC110s?
 
A wetdry is a great biological filter but mechanically not that great. Remember, a wetdry is gravity fed. Tou should still use some type of power filter in conjuction with a wetdry. The pump you are using to return the water from the wetdry to your tank uses more electricity than a cannister filter.
 
craig;533951; said:
A wetdry is a great biological filter but mechanically not that great. Remember, a wetdry is gravity fed. Tou should still use some type of power filter in conjuction with a wetdry. The pump you are using to return the water from the wetdry to your tank uses more electricity than a cannister filter.

ya thats why Im keeping 1 AC110 on the tank with the wet/dry. Thats true bout the return pump, but the wet/dry is going to take the place of two filters (canister an HOB).
 
joeytoe;533961; said:
ya thats why Im keeping 1 AC110 on the tank with the wet/dry. Thats true bout the return pump, but the wet/dry is going to take the place of two filters (canister an HOB).

the only thing I can think of is your bio filtration capacity is lower since you removed the cannister and the wet dry has not been able to catch up yet.
Cloudy water ususlly means bug bloom to me.
Can you confirm with higher nitrite levels?

If the pH is high and there is a lot of bacteria at work then you may end up with higher concentrations of amonia in its more toxic form. Lower pH tends to push the amonia concentration equilibrium towards higher concentrations of the less toxic form of amonia.
You should probably consider investing in pH, amonia, nitrite and nitrate test kits.

Without knowing more, I would sugest cutting back on the feeding for a while as well as increasing aeration and possibly lowering the temperature slightly. Doing this will increase the amount of available oxygen for the nitrifying bacteria to get established. Water dissolves more oxygen at lower temperatures and your fish metabolism will slow down, producing less amonia.

Once your amonia level begins to drop you need to concerned over rising nitrite levels. Nitrite is highly toxic to fish but once levels begin to rise, so will the population of bugs that eat it producing less toxic nitrate. Nitrate is usually metabolised by aquatic plants or reduced in concentration by water changes.

Often in new tanks (depending on your water source) changing water at a rate frequently enough to keep amonia and nitrite below dangerous levels, can prevent the establishment of a diverse healthy bacterial community by introducing toxins such as chlorine and chloramines that have been added for just that purpose by your water supply authority.

Continue with frequent small water changes but use only aged water. A fast way of aging water is to use a water cooler type water bottle (18 litre I think) filled with cold tap water. Drop a submersible 100 Watt or better water heater into the bottle set at the highest temperature along with an airstone for circulation. By heating the water you drive out virtually all of the dissolved gases including ozone and chlorine that may be introduced by your water supply authority to kill bacteria. The aeration will ensure proper circulation and uniform heating of the water. Keep the water warm and circulating for 12 hours and then unplug the heater and continue to aerate for the next 24 hours as the water cools and dissolves enough oxygen prior to being introduced into your tank.

Letting tap water sit in a similar sized bottle in most cases will age out in a 3 day period without having to be aerated and heated. Just make sure the bottle is clean and there are no small air bubbles adhering to the sides of the bottle. Using aged water will not kill your establishing bugs, reduce the amonia content below fish stress levels and provide micronutrients for the bacteria.

You may consider tossing a sponge filter into your tank to help accelarate the cycling process.
 
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