To denitrate or not

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I have a 75 gallon tank running an xp3 w/bio-balls, nitrazorb, Also have a bio-wheel 350. My stock is 4 Afra's,3 yellow labs, a sm pleco, sm synodontis, aulonacara lwanda, sm jack dempsey, 3 sm yoyo botia, and 2 red tail botia. I don't feel that my tank is overstocked or underfiltered but my nitrates are at 60ppm. I do weekly water change of 30-35%. Fish seem healthy. Should I take more active steps on lowering nitrate? I was thing about building a denitrator but I don't know if it is nessasary. Let me know your opinions
 
60 ppm is really high. My 75 is less than 5 ppm. How much does it increase per week? Check before and after a wc, and 1 week later.
 
Over feeding, dead plants/animals (dead snails can do this), and filter media can all at attribute to nitrates.

My nitrates are always around 40ppm, so I'm trying to get mine down myself. I'm cutting back from feeding every day to every other day. See if anything improves..
 
After rereading your post, I might be able to contribute further.

I don't know about the freshwater monster fish world, but in the reef world bioballs are usually a bad thing. Since nitrates are so important to keep in check in reefs (nitrates are supposed to be less than 15, ideally 0 in reef tanks), a lot of reef enthusiasts put them down because they can actually increase nitrates due to gunk build up. To remedy this, they either completely remove the media or clean it weekly (with tank water). Also, do you utilize foam? Foam is another thing notorious in the reef realm for mysterious nitrate build ups. Try cleaning your foam, bioballs, and other media (again with tank water) and see what comes out. Make sure you clean with tank water as to not kill all your bacteria and result in a lot of headaches with a new cycle forming. You might also consider cleaning the bioballs/foam in segments (every other week or so) to make sure you don't wipe out your bacteria colonies.

Some people utilize fine-mesh foam in reef tanks to keep their tank water pristine clean. What they do is use a foam pad once a week, take it completely out of the tank and wait two weeks before returning it (air out). By doing so it eliminated all of the nitrate problems, but it also destroys the bacterial colonies. Since reef tanks generally utilize live rock for bio filtration, this is no biggie killing all those bacteria. But in a F/W tank this can be adverse, so you may consider using this method only if you have other bio filtration methods in addition to foams.
 
It sounds as if your BB is doing its job. Your tank is pretty close to the "overstock" category. Try doing more frequent and larger volume water changes. or you could try feeding less and cleaning the substrate more often.
 
Id step up the waterchanges for starters.Clean the mechanical media in the filters as well.Do you vaccum the substrate during waterchanges?Sounds like somewhere there is alot of decaying material you need to remove from the system.
 
gomezladdams;2321094; said:
Id step up the waterchanges for starters.Clean the mechanical media in the filters as well.Do you vaccum the substrate during waterchanges?Sounds like somewhere there is alot of decaying material you need to remove from the system.

I vaccum half of the substrate per water change. So whole thing gets vaccumed ever 2 weeks. As far as the filters how often should I clean them. I don't want to over clean the tank and have that nitrate turn back into nitrite or ammonia. PH is around 8.0.

Also should I move my rocks during a water change or just vac around them?
 
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