Toadstool has been bleeching for the past week...

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Haven t quite figured out the issue yet. It started last week when the tempture spiked from 79/80 to almost 95 degrees (due to a malfunctioning pump).

The temperature was dropped that day and kept in check.

All levels are normal for my tank

Salinity: 1.024
Nitrate: 60 (this is normal for my tank so don't freak out. The leather has been in this tank for over a year)
Nitrite: 0
Calcium: 450/460 ppm
ph: 8.3


You guys think that much of a temp spike would have caused this? Nothing else in the tank died except the toadstool. Let me stress it's not dead...but it basically look it. Pure white now but still sticks out it's feelers when the light comes on. Any idea's on saving this guy?
 
60ppm?!



Well thats why the toadstool only lasted a year.... Nitrate doesn't kill instantly it kills over time. Having it that high constantly will end anythings life short. Why is that "normal" when you should be keeping below 10?






BTW the temp could have done it, but thats only because your toadstool was so weak from having such high nitrates

http://www.nano-reef.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=169061

many people have temp swings, as do I. I don't think thats the case though. Kevin will have the better answer though ;)
 
TheCanuck;4375740; said:
60ppm?!



Well thats why the toadstool only lasted a year.... Nitrate doesn't kill instantly it kills over time. Having it that high constantly will end anythings life short. Why is that "normal" when you should be keeping below 10?
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the tank has had 50/60 ppm for almost 3 years.

I've tried everything I could to get that number down....nothing works. I even did huge water volume changes and still nothing.
 
so you think it was the nitrates+temp change ?

I literally have followed books and FAQ on lowering nitrates too no avail. Even taken out most fish to cut waist. My macro algea grows constantly
 
Whats your tank stock?
filtration?
turn over rate?
how much live rock?
how much live sand?
skimmer?
Any macro algae?
how much water do you change?

Need all the details of your set up


Cause i have a 5ft green moray 3 sharks and a lion fish in a 360 and maintain below 15, after feedings its 25 then goes down over night after algae has time to consume.

soo theres obviously something not right here, I hope we can figure it out!
 
TheCanuck;4375756; said:
Whats your tank stock?
filtration?
turn over rate?
how much live rock?
how much live sand?
skimmer?
Any macro algae?
how much water do you change?
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Tank: 150gal
Refugium: 90gal
Pump: Two mag24 pumps one for each overflow.
310 lbs maybe more/less live rock
approx 60 lbs of live sand+crushed coral
no skimmer
the 90 gallon refugium is filled with cheato
i change a 25 gallon rubber maid tub once a week.

Stock:
Naso Tang
Kole Tang
Sailfin Tang
Yellow Tang

assortment of hard and soft corals.

2x 400watt MH 20,000k for 10 hours a day.

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My first issue with your tank is crushed coral. Crushed coral traps many pieces of food as sand does not. Also i noticed your water pumps are all located at the top spraying down. Do you have one lower so that it can keep the live rock clear, and keep crap from settling inside of your rocks? I would set one lower so that it can keep stuff from gathering in around and inside the rock structure. Then i would get a goby that sifts a lot of sand and at bumble bee snails.... Reason being i think you have nitrates stacked in your tank somewhere. I think your feeding and it gets trapped, then it finally passes and your feeding again...

With its striking black shell, striped in elegant white to yellow bands, the Bumble Bee Snail is indeed beautiful to observe. The Bumble Bee Snail also benefits the marine reef aquarium in big ways. Heralded for their small size and ability to get into small crevices and tight locations between rockwork. Here, they can clean away detritus, including uneaten meaty foods and decomposing organisms. This important cleaner also burrows into your sand bed, consuming detritus in your sand, sand dwelling worms, and in the process airating your substrate. The Bumble Bee snail is a tiny member of the Buccinidae family also burrows into your sand bed, consumes sand-dwelling worms, and helps aerate your substrate.

http://www.aquacon.com/snails.html

Also have you thought of making an algae turf scrubber? Its a much more efficiant way to feed your corals and maintain a reef. It would do 10x the job a skimmer would, and at this point if nothing else works, i do suggest skimmer.

You change to much water a week(i mean thats good but shouldn't be necessary). There has to be something rotting in your tank or your over feeding. Or your lighting on your refugium is not bright enough. I have a 75watt light over mine. Home depo metal clamp light, and plant growing bulb. It filters through about 10lbs a week.
 
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