Today in the Fishroom ~ 02/08/09 John J. O'Managuense

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Here's a special pair of managuense that you're going to like. The male is the only sibling I have left of one of my prized possessions...Jumbo. For those who don't know he was a very good looking male managuense that I photographed thousands of times over the years. He passed away in July. The female managuense shown here is a wlld caught female from Honduras. The pair breed regularly. And as a matter of fact the female laid egg just this morning.


The pair shown here will be put into the North Jersey Aquarium Society's special auction to benefit the family the late John J. O'Malley. John was true friend of the hobby and will be missed by friends and family.

John loved big fish and was a class A fish photog. I'm going to update this thread with photos up until the auction. If you are looking for a beautiful pair of fish with a history...and benefit a good cause...see you at the show.

During the initial courting the pair will go through some impressive aquabatics. Here's the male "puffed up" skimming over top of the female. I sat in front of that tank for a good hour hoping some of THIS would go on with in the parameters of the "sweet spot" where I had my lights. More later. For the most part the behavior is predictable and varies at different stages of the breeding process.

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Here's a really nice shot of the male. Can I see Jumbo? Honestly, no. I can tell you that the overall body shape of the male reminds me more of Jumbo's father, Butch. Jumbo's mother was a female gold managuense....but the father was from Nicaragua. I remember his body shape being more elongated. This male is still young...about three years old and around 11" (I stink at guestimating the size...but it a nice adult fish). I think he will get thicker and mpre high bodied as he gets older.

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I can't tell you why...but this is the only shot I have taken of the fish that does remind me of Jumbo.

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Here's the female. One of the things I've noticed with these fish...and predominantly the females is that when they are in a relatively relaxed state their caudal fin takes on this shape. Interesting. She also has a nice set of teeth.

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This pair came out of the pond a few months back. One of the things I've noticed about the pond fish is that it generally takes a period of a few weeks to sometimes a month to coax them out of hiding and have them pose for the lens. I took the pair out of the pond while the female was sitting on fry. Snagged the male when he came back looking. They didn't have a problem adjusting.

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I've often said that there's nothing cooler than photographing breeding cichlids. They are at their prettiest and most insane and could care less if I'm standing outside the boudoir with a camera.

Check back for updated photos. If you're going to be at the auction...see you there.
 
You still have some of Jumbo's descendants though, don't you?
 
Amazing. He is just damn right beautiful. I do miss Jumbo, he was my inspiration for getting into fish in the 1st place, since managuense was my 1st fish when I stepped into the hobby. Nice pair, I hope they go to a great and loving home.
 
tydus;2758449; said:
Amazing. He is just damn right beautiful. I do miss Jumbo, he was my inspiration for getting into fish in the 1st place, since managuense was my 1st fish when I stepped into the hobby. Nice pair, I hope they go to a great and loving home.


Dude...I love hearing that. Thanks.

Here's a few more. Male and female side by side.

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Here's the male ducking into the spot to do his part. Note the small fry at the top of the tank. Currently there is a few dozen smaller fry swimming with the parents. If left to their own devices the new fry will undoubtedly become supper for the few old fry still in the tank. Some of the new fry will make it...and the circle of life goes on.

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I peeked inside the tank and couldn't see the number of eggs that were laid this time. I get the impression that there are not as many as the last time. Couple things of note...fish from the pond generally have more fry than fish in the tank. No doubt a reaction to the predation that goes on in the pond. Fish in the tank will have large batches of fry when they are fresh out of the pond. Successive spawns are smaller. Wild fish appear to have larger spawns than tank bred fish. Again...no doubt something in the "wild" genes responding to the predation.

Having fry in the tank doesn't stop the fish from having yet another spawn. I originally thought that the fish would "clean house" and eat the remaining fry before getting the urge to spawn again...but they haven't. I noted this in not only the Managuense, but also the Loisell, Synspilum, and Zaliosum. In the tank as in nature the process is that the strong survive...siblings will snack on future generations who will snack on future generations...and so on.

Here's the male doing the deed.

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Those are some great looking fish Mojo! The proceeds are for a good cause too! Definitely cant see the Jumbo in him though, but gorgeous none the less. Jumbo made me like Jaguar cichlids haha, he has always been my favorite :)
 
Awesome pictures as always. With my Parachromis, loiselli specifically, there is almost always two generations of fry present in the tank at any given time. I don't see the old fry eating the new fry in my tank though. They mostly feed on algea and scraps until they're large enough for bloodworms. I've got around five fry still in the tank from a loiselli spawn back in September '08.

The predation of fry in my tank seems to mostly come from tankmates (GT's in my case) rather than older fry. Now that the GT's are gone (to make room for the dovii), the fry are lasting longer and are much more free swimming. They go almost anywhere now and are pretty much ignored by the current tankmates in my sig line. The fry (around 3/4") can swim just a couple of inches from the Oscars without concern.

Thanks for sharing and thanks for your generosity donating these guys to a good cause. They are beautiful.
 
Two things of note are happening now. Both male and female are becoming more agitated...both by me and the lens...and also to the remaining fry in the tank. The second is that either one or the other...often both...are hanging out around the pot with the eggs. Most often I just get this look from the pair:

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Here's the female inspecting the brood. The female takes the major role in fanning the eggs while the male guards the perimeter for those pesky fry (and of course the photographer).

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Notice anything different about this shot? One of the things I experiment with is the angle of the shot. For a series of these I laid flat on the floor and angled the camera up. You can see it in perspective with the fish and the pot. So...nice shot of a gorgeous lady.

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