TRUE BLACKDIAMOND LEOPOLDI

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Jack Dempsey
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Coming from Japan soon, these guys are the real deal with belly spotting and all. Could some experts please confirm with me that these are the best of the best real blackdiamond? Thanks Mike

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dosnt the belly spotting mean they r part hen?

1st pic looks very close to my female leo/hen....
 
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vamptrev;2315366; said:
dosnt the belly spotting mean they r part hen?

1st pic looks very close to my female leo/hen....
No real pure blackdiamond leopoldi have belly spotting, if they dont real stingray experts will not consider them true BD.

Requirements for real BD, true BD must have the following

1) Spots under side,the more the better,
2) The traditional three chain of spots on the upper side disc perimeter
3) Many many spots surrounding the eyes area
4) TRUE BD SIZE ARE SMALLER AND GROWTH MUCH SLOWER THAN PDR OR HENLEI
5) TRUE BD IF U LOOK VERY CLOSELY,THE EYES LENS ARE TINTED BLUE IN COLOUR!
 

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vamptrev;2315366; said:
dosnt the belly spotting mean they r part hen?

1st pic looks very close to my female leo/hen....

We should be able to tell PDR/hen by the tail. right? If it has a short tail and looks like a pdr/hen... Maybe wishful thinking but we need some BD genes in the USA.
 

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epicentyr;2315598; said:
We should be able to tell PDR/hen by the tail. right? If it has a short tail and looks like a pdr/hen... Maybe wishful thinking but we need some BD genes in the USA.
leopoldi tail are short and we call it a flag tail, henlei tails are longer in length also when cross leo/henlei you get a ray with dark pots and longer tails see pictures below.
 

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siluk;2315561; said:
i think these are not pure BD.

Please explain why you think so, want to have all people share there knowlegde? These do not have any henlei in them or there spots and tails would look totaly different at this size. First pictures are pure leo and show short flagtail. We also breed leo/henlei hybrid and they look different here are some pictures of our leo/henlei hybrids towards the bottom. You can see the end of the tail is long and not short like a leo flag tail would be here is pictures of what a leo tails should look like at the bottom. If you look closely a pure leo tail is short at the end about 1.5" max compared to henlei 2-3" size.

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siluk;2315651; said:
They don't have henlei blood.
But have PDR blood for sure.

Ok so your saying there pure leo but you dont consider then BD? they have three rows of spots and belly spotting along with blue eyes so why not consider them BD lol sorry but for the price of these guys I really need to talk to fellow rays keepers about there opinion. Anyone else? Just wanted to add these are coming from a very respected breeder in asia you have all seen his amazing breeding leopoldi before on this site.
 

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i have seen in Taiwan. These are BD x Leo.
They are nice and expensive too.
 
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