After last years dat massacre in my tank (three 6-8" dats died after water change, leaving me only two). I am now slowly building my stock and trying to get the new babies pellet trained. So, i have my big indos at 9 and 7", a baby indo at 3.5" and now two NTT's Today, when picking them up, I was expecting indos since the seller said "widebar", knowing it wasnt going to be a ST at 2.5" I thought it must be indos, to my surprise they are two thinbars. An and this week im picking up 4 more 3" indos. Just excited about some nice x-mas gifts to myself, and to help spread agression, as after the 3 died, the two big ones always fight. I will get a vid up after i get the 4 indo babies.