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[vanman]

Does anyone have these or know a us breeder? My three are getting lonely for a male partner. I have successfully breed these but the male got out and dies several years ago. The three females remaining keep calling out this lonely sound!

Eric

 

[Wiggles92]

Does anyone have these or know a us breeder? My three are getting lonely for a male partner. I have successfully breed these but the male got out and dies several years ago. The three females remaining keep calling out this lonely sound!

Eric

No, I don't know of a U.S. breeder. However, I do know that they're illegal to import nowadays, so captive bred is the only way to go.

 

[vanman]

Thanks, I am hoping someone know a breeder. I learned some time back that they are now illegal to import. I do understand why as they cannot digest unless the water is around 75 degrees and even then it is slow. They do not breed unless the water is 80 degrees. so they cannot survive in the wild.

 

[Wiggles92]

Thanks, I am hoping someone know a breeder. I learned some time back that they are now illegal to import. I do understand why as they cannot digest unless the water is around 75 degrees and even then it is slow. They do not breed unless the water is 80 degrees. so they cannot survive in the wild.

Actually, it's not exactly a law on our end rather it's laws in the countries where they originate. These particular caecilians (and all others, for that matter) are illegal to export in all of the countries in which they naturally occur is why it's technically to acquire and keep imported ones under the Lacey Act. The only country that allows for the export of caecilians is Peru, but this particular species hasn't been documented there as far as I know. Sure, they're still imported to the U.S. all the time, but they're purposely mislabeled as "unknown eels" in order to try to dodge the law; these specimens are still illegal to possess as well.

 

[vanman]

Actually, it's not exactly a law on our end rather it's laws in the countries where they originate. These particular caecilians (and all others, for that matter) are illegal to export in all of the countries in which they naturally occur is why it's technically to acquire and keep imported ones under the Lacey Act. The only country that allows for the export of caecilians is Peru, but this particular species hasn't been documented there as far as I know. Sure, they're still imported to the U.S. all the time, but they're purposely mislabeled as "unknown eels" in order to try to dodge the law; these specimens are still illegal to possess as well.

Thanks for the info. It just did not make since as they would not be invasive. Still looking though! I will let the specialty stores in my area know this so they might find them under one of their many other names.

 

[Wiggles92]

Thanks for the info. It just did not make since as they would not be invasive. Still looking though! I will let the specialty stores in my area know this so they might find them under one of their many other names.

Good luck. I'll let you know if I hear of anyone who breeds them.

 

[vanman]

Actually, it's not exactly a law on our end rather it's laws in the countries where they originate. These particular caecilians (and all others, for that matter) are illegal to export in all of the countries in which they naturally occur is why it's technically to acquire and keep imported ones under the Lacey Act. The only country that allows for the export of caecilians is Peru, but this particular species hasn't been documented there as far as I know. Sure, they're still imported to the U.S. all the time, but they're purposely mislabeled as "unknown eels" in order to try to dodge the law; these specimens are still illegal to possess as well.

Thanks for the info. It just did not make since as they would not be invasive. Still looking though! I will let the specialty stores in my area know this so they might find them under one of their many other names.

 

[coura]

Check foruns everywhere, put ads, etc. Im shure you will find them. Be prepared however to travel some distance.

 

[snakeguy101]

The only ones you will find will be wild caught imports of questionable legality. I don't think anyone has bred these guys in captivity yet.

 

[coura]

The only ones you will find will be wild caught imports of questionable legality. I don't think anyone has bred these guys in captivity yet.

They have but is very rare to find someone that has more then one, let alone a specialized setup and is specifically trying to breed them.