Uaru & A.heckelii .. water advise please

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hamfist

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OK, it's like this. I have a 130 gallon with ...

1 x severum 5"
1 x chocolate cichlid 3"
2 x Uaru 6"
2 Acarichthys heckelii 3"

plus other small bits and pieces.

These have all been living happily together for some months. THe problem is that my tank water is hard and pH 8.0. Ammonia and nitrite are zero. Nitrates are now at 10ppm, although have been running much higher at about 30ppm until very recently when I bought a nitrate filter for my tapwater. They get two 25% water changes a week (minimum).
The sev and the choc are clearly thriving. They are happpy, feed well, are growing well, and have excellent finnage.

However, I am concerned about the uaru and the heckelii. The 2 x uaru came to me with very roughed up fins due to the arowanas they were kept with. I was expecting some quick healing with me, but this has just not happened. The uaru seem "happy" and feed very well, but the fin damage has just not healed and the other fins have rather a tatty appearance. I have had them about 3 months.
The A.heckelii also seem happy, and feed well. The thing is with them is that I have had them about 4-5 months and they have not grown a jot. Not one tiny bit. For cichlids like these, which potentially can reach 8" or so, I was really expecting some seriosu growth, especially with their good appetites. They do look good, with good finnage though.

I am concerned that my water is simply not going to provide them with an environment in which they can thrive. If so, my options would be to either get an RO system (awkward in the space I have) or to rehome them to a more acidic, softer water home (which would not be easy, as most of the tapwater here in the UK is hard and alkaline).

Or... am I simply worrying about nothing and not being patient anough for the heckelii to grow ?

Would really appreciate your opinions.
 
Uaru are one of the cichlids I've found less adaptable to hard water or higher pH, especially if they're wild or close to wild (F1). Do they show any signs of HITH?

As for the fins... if they were badly damaged before you got them, it's possible that the fins didn't heal properly the first time they were damaged and are now permanently scarred. I've seen fish whose fins look tattered and worn, but they actually didn't grow back correctly and so they're stuck that way. Split or torn fins should start growing back almost immediately, usually within a day or so, so if there's no new growth, the damage may be done.
 
ryansmith83;4368899; said:
Uaru are one of the cichlids I've found less adaptable to hard water or higher pH, especially if they're wild or close to wild (F1). Do they show any signs of HITH?

As for the fins... if they were badly damaged before you got them, it's possible that the fins didn't heal properly the first time they were damaged and are now permanently scarred. I've seen fish whose fins look tattered and worn, but they actually didn't grow back correctly and so they're stuck that way. Split or torn fins should start growing back almost immediately, usually within a day or so, so if there's no new growth, the damage may be done.

No signs at all of HiTH.

I think you might be right about the fins. Thankfully, the fish can swim normally. One, in particular, has adapted very well to the almost complete absence of one of his pectorals.
It really annoys me that the LFS I bought them from let these arowana damage them so. It happened to the whole batch of uaru that they had.
 
Ryansmith83, thats a really, really nice sev in your avatar BTW !!
 
hamfist;4368133; said:
THe problem is that my tank water is hard and pH 8.0. Ammonia and nitrite are zero. Nitrates are now at 10ppm, although have been running much higher at about 30ppm until very recently when I bought a nitrate filter for my tapwater.

Unless you know the gH/kH you're jumping the gun by looking into things like an RO system. Its been explained before and I'm not going to attempt to explain it again as there are far better people that me to do that, but gH and kH are far more important when it comes to "soft water" fish like uaru.
 
David R;4379000; said:
Unless you know the gH/kH you're jumping the gun by looking into things like an RO system. Its been explained before and I'm not going to attempt to explain it again as there are far better people that me to do that, but gH and kH are far more important when it comes to "soft water" fish like uaru.

My water company quotes several different measures of hardness of the tapwater.

104 mg/ml of Ca
18.2 degrees of hardness on the Clarke scale
26 degrees of hardness on the French scale
14.56 degrees of hardness on the German scale

Unfortunately I have no idea how these figures might correspond to gH or kH. It would be nice if there was one agreed international standard for each measurement.
 
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