135 gallon aquarium, I want to grow out my oscar fry long term in this tank, i think having a sea of oscars swimming in there would look beautiful so is it simply a matter of filtration? I was thinking of using a fluidized bed filter+mechanical filter in one 55G barrel and do a 55G sump. I want to make this happen, tell me what I gotta do.
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I have 2 135 gallon tanks and want to divide one into thirds and keep a mated pair of a different color in each section and move fry out to other tank and grow them out 8-9 inches eventually going in my 600 gallon pond.
You think a breeding pair of oscars will be ok in a 24"x18" area? MAYBE be able to divide it in 2 sections, but that gives an area about the size of my 57g and I couldnt imagine 2 10"+ cichlids in there. And to your first post, didnt you start a dozen threads on this already? What exactly do you want to know that isnt in another thread already?
A "sea of Oscars" will never happen in a 135g tank, and no amount of filtration will make it so. A tank that size will be suitable for a breeding pair, alone, but attempting to raise a pile of them to any size will result in a slew of dead fish.
First of all the three sections come to 45 gallons each, everyone keeps well over 2 full grown oscars in there 55 gallon tanks with regular hang over the back crap filters and other fish and they dont change the water like they should or heat the tank like they should and STILL manage to get there oscars to lay eggs. If 55 gallon tanks are big enough then 45 will be fine. Im not inexperienced with oscars just in breeding them on purpose or setting up a brute stock tank which is what this thread is about. My neighbor has had a 13" oscar in a 10 gallon tank for 3 years with no problems he feeds him worms by hand and there like best friends he throws feeder fish in there and they hide behind him where he cant turn around and get to them i dont know how he does it. im just saying i'd like to duplicate the filtration they use on fish stock ponds/tanks so i could overstock my big tanks. As long as ive got water quality under control and there happy and eating, why not?
Ok well of you want to cram oscars in that tank then you are set in your ways and should just filter it how you want. Fyi a 55g has 33% more footprint than the area you are talking about and theres no way I would try to house a breeding pair of oscars in there.
Ive seen arapima in 180s but wouldnt assume it would be ok for me to do it. And id love to see pics of a 13" happy healthy oscar in a 10" wide tank.
Last bit: how tall are you? So say these oscars get 12" you think one would be ok in a tank only 2x its length long and 1.5x wide? Nevermind a breeding pair...dude seriously? By those standards I should be fine with a solo dovii in my 57 right?
Ive seen arapima in 180s but wouldnt assume it would be ok for me to do it. And id love to see pics of a 13" happy healthy oscar in a 10" wide tank.
Last bit: how tall are you? So say these oscars get 12" you think one would be ok in a tank only 2x its length long and 1.5x wide? Nevermind a breeding pair...dude seriously? By those standards I should be fine with a solo dovii in my 57 right?
I doubt anyone will even take you seriously with a comment like this " My neighbor has had a 13" oscar in a 10 gallon tank"
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Just because "people" keep oscars in a 55, doesn't mean it isn't cruel and unusual punishment. And hole in the head disease is often the result
My rule is a minimum of at least 10 gallons per inch, which means a pair of 10" oscars would need at least 100 gals just for themselves, etc etc.
I have seen a facility that keeps a "sea" of growout cichlids in a single tank that does well, the fluidized bed filter is about 10ft tall X 3 ft in diameter, and the tank for the fish itself is about 15ft in diameter by 3 ft tall, they also use tiers of aquacultured plants for nitrate removal.
We have all seen too many distorted oscars for sale in LFSs, which is what comes from overcrowding and high nitrate conditions.
My rule is a minimum of at least 10 gallons per inch, which means a pair of 10" oscars would need at least 100 gals just for themselves, etc etc.
I have seen a facility that keeps a "sea" of growout cichlids in a single tank that does well, the fluidized bed filter is about 10ft tall X 3 ft in diameter, and the tank for the fish itself is about 15ft in diameter by 3 ft tall, they also use tiers of aquacultured plants for nitrate removal.
We have all seen too many distorted oscars for sale in LFSs, which is what comes from overcrowding and high nitrate conditions.
I've seen people cram palm-sized angelfish into 10 gallon tanks. That doesn't mean it's ideal or optimal. If you care about your fish, you will ensure that their needs are met, rather than trying to make them fit into whatever scenario is easiest or cheapest for you. I have bred an 8" pair of severums in a 55 gallon tank and it was a very tight fit. An 8" fish in a 13" wide tank is still a snug fit, especially when they're actively tending fry. I would not do that again. With oscars you're talking 10 - 12" fish so I wouldn't even try it. The footprint you're talking about is even smaller.
As for the growout question, you aren't going to raise a "sea" of oscars to 9" in a 135 gallon tank. It'd probably be an okay grow-out tank until the fry were all 2 - 3" but if you had several hundred of them you'd be doing massive water changes to keep up with the bioload, despite filtration.
As for the growout question, you aren't going to raise a "sea" of oscars to 9" in a 135 gallon tank. It'd probably be an okay grow-out tank until the fry were all 2 - 3" but if you had several hundred of them you'd be doing massive water changes to keep up with the bioload, despite filtration.
I wouldn't go more than 3 full size oscars in a 135. Even then if 2 pair off and begin breeding the 3rd one will be the target of a lot of aggression. Why not keep a breeding pair and some large dither fish like large barbs or silver $$$. Would be active and the oscars would be the centrepiece fish.